Priti Patel deserves her own thread

Sad to see older women who should know better, gunning for a woman in politics for no good reason other than she happens to be a Conservative and supports leaving the EU.
I can imagine the praise that would be heaped upon her ( Penny Mordaunt) if she had happened to be either a Labour MP or a Conservative but a rabidly pro EU one.Hmmmm.

Nice definition of ‘gunning for’. I rather think we’re criticising her appointment which was made on the basis of her being a Brexiteer. She has a track record of lying and indulging in a ‘smutty’ sense of humour treating speaking in the house as a bit of a joke. Your last sentence is ridiculous. I can’t think of any Tory MP I would heap praise on just because they were Remain. I’ve some time for SW as she has some integrity but feel she’s basically in the wrong party.

How do you know that she was appointed on the basis of her being a Brexiteer....you say these things with such confidence as if you are in the Cabinet and know all that is going on! There will be more to her appointment than that.Is there some pearl clutching going on about a ‘smutty sense of humour’ here ( didn’t know people used the term these days.)
I am more concerned that she gets on and does a good job and couldn’t give two hoots about her humour.
Many on GN ( Remainers) have praised Ken Clarke btw.

Lemongrave, I am getting so tired of this forum. The people who contribute tend to be left wing/pro EU and spend their time savaging anything or anyone who is off a different mindset.

It has to be said they do talk to themselves.

It also has to be said that there must be some sort of reciprocal anti-EU, left wing feed and think tank keeping it all going.

Was listening to LBC talk this morning and the presenter made a huge deal of this old news about Patel and the British workforce. He was almost salivating. He too was a Remainer, he too was left wing and anyone not agreeing with him was shot down. It was like more really old dirt he could dig up.

Now, did he read Gransnet or is there a left wing resource pile somewhere with ammo to be used against the government?

Every bit of news is given an anti-government spin. Patel has gone and rightly so but now because of an oppressive and misogynist regime in Iran, Boris Johnson is being hung out to dry by left wingers. He is a buffoon but no one seems to see both sides of the story or indeed look for the truth. Boris is in the frame and let's use this to bash TM and the government. There has been no bashing of the Iranian regime I note.

I cannot be the only on to have noticed. Very few people contribute to the News and Politics forum and I can understand why. It's like pissing in the wind to try and divert the left wing, Remain flow.

Day6
You are not alone.

Far from any bashing of the Iranian regime ( on GN) there is even some kind of praise for it..... enough to make a cat laugh.

At least us rabid left wing remainers don't constantly come up with excuses for incompetent government ministers just because they happen to be a] Conservative and b]brexiters.

Please read and watch this. lemon and Day6.
It's from Richard Radcliffe about his wife and what Boris said means for her.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/richard-ratcliffe/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe_b_18512176.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-boris-johnson

Then find some way to criticise us for wanting Boris gone.

Day6
Once again, you speak for so many on GN.

You can watch it as well if you like, petra.

I am getting so tired of this forum.

You are at perfect liberty not to read it, you know.

Or to start some non controversial topic.

Or to start your own pro Brexit thread setting out all the expert Leavers' opinions and predictions for how it's going to be a perfect bonanza for the UK. (not just unevidenced opinion)

We just post the views of those who can see a downside , which is understandable.

Just moaning about evil Left Wing Remainers really doesn't add anything to the conversation.

I'm sure that you do represent the views of many Gnetters. They mostly fall within the demographic of which the most voted Leave. But that doesn't mean that everyone else has to shut up.

Thought Petra was being sarcastic...... Hard to believe that some people seem to blame Iran for Boris sentencing N. Radcliffe to even more years in prison.

And if they do start their own thread about the positives of Brexit, we will leave them to do it.
Wasn't it whitewave who started just such a thread, but they couldn't think of any positives.

I asked them what the benefits of leaving the E.U. would be. No answer was the loud reply...

Does anybody not blame Iran for sending her to prison in the first place?Hmmm? speak up!

None of us knows what happened and why.

Back to Brexit are we?

Er, it was Day6 who brought it up:

It's like pissing in the wind to try and divert the left wing, Remain flow.

Of course Iran was wrong. But that isn’t the issue. The issue is a bungling fool who sits in the FO and consistently makes embarrassing and dangerous statements, which other countries are sometimes shocked at, sometimes amused but always with the opinion that Johnson is a laughable idiot.

Lemongrove, her husband knows what happened and why.
Obviously you can't be bothered to read/listen to what he says, so you have no right to complain about those of us who do care, over a million so far.
Stop pretending you care.

infacts.org/penny-mordaunt-choice-lays-mays-powerlessness-bare/

THis is why May had to choose Mordaunt. So sad.

Who is complaining about those ‘who care’ ?
I take it that you do condemn the Iran regime for jailing this woman? Because, tbh it is not at all clear that everybody here does
I expect her husband does know the exact truth of the matter.You don’t though, and neither do I.
I feel very sorry for anybody who falls foul of that regime.

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-job-on-the-line-if-jailed-mother-nazanin-zaghariratcliffe-gets-longer-sentence-in-a3688046.html

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/priti-patel-thanks-supporters-in-first-tweet-since-resignation-a3686076.html

Not sure this will help her. Maybe that was Osborne's aim.

"At least us rabid left wing remainers don't constantly come up with excuses for incompetent government ministers just because they happen to be a] Conservative and b]brexiters."

No one is 'making excuses' for anyone Tegan but some of us think there is more to this story than Boris Johnson's remark.

The woman is already in prison for some infringement of Iranian law. She is seen as a political activist and has fallen foul of the authorities already - that is why she is behind bars. That was NOT BJ's doing.

Was she training journalists? Do you know? I am pretty sure BJ didn't make it up. The truth has to come out but you "rabid left wing Remainers" (your words) are using this to attack BJ and TM and the government in general.

You rush to attack the government in any situation but many people are asking about the prisoner's actions in Iran and rightly so, as well as the harshness of the Iranian regime.

We need more information to determine if there has been a miscarriage of justice, but don't let that stop you attacking any Conservative politician you can.

By the by, but I am of the opinion BJ shouldn't have been given the foreign affairs post. His delivery and persona is a liability imo. I wouldn't be at all surprised if TM had a reshuffle. Should have happened a while ago as far as Boris is concerned imo. A good manager would. It is not a sign of weakness to bring in other players. Ask any football coach.

Caroline Lucas wrote

Boris Johnson’s political life

1. Called Commomwealth citizens “flag waving piccaninnies”
2 Describes people f,on the Congo as having “ watermelon smiles”
3 Calls Barack Obama “part Keynian” with an “ancestral dislike” of the U.K.
4 uses his Telegraph column to cast doubt on climate change
5 Suggest Papuan people are cannibals
6 Ran a magazine which accused Liverpudlians of “wallowing in it” after Hillsborough.
7 Jokes about clearing the dead bodies in Syria to turn Sirte into Dubai.
8 He now endangers the freedom of a U.K. citizen.