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Corbyns Inertia

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Primrose65 Fri 15-Dec-17 20:22:17

A continuation of www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1241620-Corbyns-Momentum

Corbyns unknown peace prize was in the Mail today apparently. He joins a long list of people awarded peace prizes you've never heard of. Like the Confucius Peace Prize won by Mugabe.

Primrose65 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:24:06

I don't know you so I have no opinion about you.

Thanks for sharing your non-opinion so prolifically. If you do have an opinion on something, better let GN know in advance so they can boost their servers.

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:24:49

Oh! Why didn't you say it was my post then Gracesgran?

You asked how extreme I could be
As you well know, I am not

Perhaps Corbyn inviting the IRA to tea at Westminster just after the Brighton bombings when people were killed, maimed and injured was extreme - I agree.
Perhaps he regrets it now.
We all do things we regret I'm sure, but that was rather an extreme thing to do.

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:26:25

Primrose grin

It was rather an extreme non-opinion!
Spread all over the internet by now I presume.

Chewbacca Thu 04-Jan-18 20:27:12

Primrose I loved your post at 19.31 grin

GracesGranMK2 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:28:39

This is just flaming!

LauraGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 04-Jan-18 20:37:16

Hello all. Can we please get back to the original discussion? We’d hate to have to pull the thread altogether.

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:37:52

Flaming is a hostile and insulting interaction between persons over the internet, often involving the use of profanity. It can also be the swapping of insults back and forth or with many people teaming up on a single victim.

Was I flamed? is that what you were saying?

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:38:28

Yes Laura

Sorry, X post!

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:39:58

Inertia:
a tendency to do nothing or to remain unchanged.

No, I can't agree Primrose
Corbyn has changed beyond recognition both in appearance and in his attitudes.

Primrose65 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:48:40

grin Jalima
I thought Inertia would be a good follow up to the first thread - Momentum!
It's like trying to name a sequel film. I thought about
Corbyn Reloaded
The (un)Fellowship of Corbyn
Corbyn with a Vengeance

I thought I'd hold on to Corbyn: Judgement Day until the next election.

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:54:07

Ah - I didn't get it, I do now

Thanks grin

lemongrove Thu 04-Jan-18 21:08:47

I got it Primrose grin smug mode.
Corbyn:Judgement Day......eeek, Am not too keen on nail biting horror ( although weirdly, love Game Of Thrones.)

Primrose65 Thu 04-Jan-18 21:17:29

Sometimes my sense of humour takes a bit of explaining!
wine

lemongrove Thu 04-Jan-18 21:18:24

So many more left wing younger voters ( who don’t know much about Corbyn) have boosted the ranks of voters, or did in the last GE, but he has also accounted for losses, people who will never vote for him, but are Labour voters.
Without these, it would be very hard to win a GE for him.
Momentum have insinuated themselves everywhere that counts, Universities, and councils up and down the land,
They are the mostly unacknowledged but powerful activist group going, trying to root out moderate Labour MP candidates and councillors wherever they can to push their man Corbyn ( and it is the man, not the LP that they are working so hard for) into power.

Primrose65 Thu 04-Jan-18 21:34:55

I don't think we're going to hear anything from Corbyn this week as he's still on holiday - so this thread may suffer from a bit of inertia.

I agree that Corbyn and Momentum have brought a lot of young voters to the LP. I don't know if they'll be able to keep them on board for another 4 years though. They were very effective at engaging people for a short period of time, but Corbyn might seem like yesterday's man to them in 2022 if he's still around (My money is on him going before then)

lemongrove Thu 04-Jan-18 21:37:36

I think you could well be right.

Chewbacca Thu 04-Jan-18 21:41:56

Fingers crossed.

Anniebach Thu 04-Jan-18 21:45:48

there was a lot on offer to the young voter as there was by the Libs, if Corbyn fails to deliver they will leave as they did to the Libs

whitewave Fri 05-Jan-18 07:24:47

I think one of the biggest problems that the Tory party is facing with regard to the voter is that it’s policy is being driven by its membership which is far to the right of the majority of voters in the U.K.

The membership which is now down to 70k and old and reactionary. Not a good look .

lemongrove Fri 05-Jan-18 07:51:52

Think you’re on the wrong thread whitewave
Most voters in the UK don’t belong to any political party in any case.
I think we need a third party made up fromthe left ground of the Conservatives and the right of Labour.
All those Labour MPs (170?) who agreed with a vote of no confidence in Corbyn could start on this right away!

GracesGranMK2 Fri 05-Jan-18 08:37:47

However, Lemons, this is exactly the right thread - unless it is your intention to drive everyone who is not Tory away - on which to show that the inertia is among the Cons support that is not apparent among the LP support, even if everyone you ever meet would not vote Labour.

If you click on the picture it will be large enough to see exactly which is flagging and which is not.

whitewave Fri 05-Jan-18 08:43:40

Inertia!! That’s what I was looking for gg

Anniebach Fri 05-Jan-18 08:58:49

A new party was suggested after Corbyn won the leadership and the vote of no confidence by the centre left MP's, I was against it but now think differently . if Corbyn were to stand down in four years the next leader will be elected by Momentum, the Labour Party is finished . We need the centre left MP's to take on the Tory government.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 05-Jan-18 09:17:50

This thread is about inertia. Where - really I would like to know - is the Tory party going to get the members to support the candidates in the next election.

When people look at what the Tories have done we also see almost complete inertia leading to a breakdown in the services that all but a small number on the far right still want.

We see inertia creaping into the Brexit talks. David Davies look, before Christmas looked almost worse than inert - he had flopped.

I see no inertia in the LP. It is obvious that, behind the scenes they are working on policy - just as they had before the last election. Behind the scenes, without inviting MSM journalists, the LP are out and about meeting people. If you are an old right-winger who isn't a member of any party, you will not have any idea this is going on. If you don't get your news only from one or other version of the DM you may well do. That is most certainly not inertia; it's very clever politics. Just think of the shock (again) that is to come for the old right-wingers.

Anniebach Fri 05-Jan-18 09:20:14

This thread is - CORBYNS Inertia, not the conservative party's inertia

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