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Misguided Remainers and the EU.

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Day6 Thu 21-Dec-17 12:24:37

"The EU is the engine room for extremism."
By Melanie Phillips

'Clumsy attempts to integrate our continent were doomed to failure and only bred resentment.'

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/the-eu-is-the-engine-room-for-extremism-kdnhrmk52

(There may be a pay wall. Some of the article, below.)

Excellent article in the Times. So many Remainers refuse to recognise how disenfranchised the people of Europe have become.

She writes: "In the minds of many Remainers, those who want to leave the EU hate Europe and Europeans. The idea that one might love visiting Europe and like Europeans but nevertheless not want to be ruled by them is apparently incomprehensible. Britain is pulling up an existential drawbridge. The Brexiteers’ desire to open up the world is deemed a retreat into isolationism."

Behind all this lies a curious paradox. While Brexiteers believe they are about to reclaim their political identity, these Remainers feel that they are about to lose theirs.

"Yet far from standing for freedom and flexibility, the EU stands for the imposition of inflexible economic policies ruining vulnerable member states such as Greece and the extinction of the freedom to express national identity and culture through democratically elected institutions."

"Thus abandoned by the entire political mainstream, the peoples of Europe have started voting in droves for populist, nationalist and truly neo-fascist parties."

"In Austria the far-right Freedom Party, founded in the Fifties by former Nazis, has joined a governing coalition with the centre-right Austrian People’s Party. ”.

"The Freedom Party first joined the Austrian government in 2000. On that occasion, the EU imposed diplomatic sanctions and demanded evidence that human rights would be protected. This was because it was supposed to be the guarantor that fascism would never again rise in Europe. Yet now the Freedom Party is back governing Austria and the EU is silent.

"The fact is that, far from proving the bulwark against extremism, it is facilitating its rise with neo-fascist parties gaining ground along with legitimate nationalist ones."

"EU supporters assume that the erosion of national boundaries and an ideology of enforced multiculturalism will create the brotherhood of man. They don’t. They create instead resentment, rage and extremism."

Oh and many probably don't want to read what an MEP (Molly Scott Cato) discovered about the inner and secretive workings of the EU and transatlantic trade deals. It's a real eye-opener regarding the secrecy of EU negotiating, the costs incurred and the way corporations profit from these deals rather than citizens. It provides a chilling read.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/04/secrets-ttip-corporations-not-citizens-transatlantic-trade-deal

We need to remove ourselves from this, and stop paying our billions to Brussels in membership fees to facilitate this deception.

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Dec-17 20:14:30

Refugees are people fleeing armed conflicts or persecution

An asylum seeker is someone who claims to be a refugee but whose claim hasn’t been evaluated. This person would have applied for asylum on the grounds that returning to his or her country would lead to persecution on account of race, religion, nationality or political beliefs.

Migrants choose to move not because of a direct threat or persecution but mainly to improve their lives:
Finding work
Seeking better education
Reuniting with family

Unlike refugees who cannot safely return home, migrants can return home if they wish. This distinction is important for governments, since countries handle migrants under their own immigration laws and processes.

The European Union - the main end-point in the current crisis - has its own rules. They do not contradict the UN but introduce a complication. They say that refugees’ applications for asylum must be handled in the EU country where they first arrive.