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Iam64 Wed 03-Jan-18 19:19:36

The situation we're in this week with the NHS, cancelled operations, frail and ill patients sitting in queues of ambulances outside A and E, etc etc.
The health secretary and PM are insisting they planned well for these pressures. Every doctor/nurse Ive heard interviewed is saying the situation is desperate and that the issue is lack of resources.
Local Authorities funds have been devastated so patients who could be discharged home if social care was available remain in hospital. People stay on trollies in A and E rather than being discharged because there isn't a Consultant available to confirm they ca go home.
Does anyone have a sensible suggestion about how this situation can be improved. I don't see how it can improve without more money, we need to train and support our medical staff.

durhamjen Thu 25-Jan-18 19:19:11

Did she say that brain cancer is the least researched of all cancers.

Iam64 Thu 25-Jan-18 19:21:01

I re-posted a BBC News link about Tessa Jowell's illness. I've admired TJ's integrity and she does look very ill, tough for her and her loved one's. Slightly off piste but I was shocked by the majority of comments under the BBC news link, which were disgusting. There were references to her contribution to the Blair government and suggestions that this had come home to haunt her, karma a couple of posters said - served her right, several others said. What is the matter with people (she asked rhetorically)

whitewave Thu 25-Jan-18 19:22:39

Oh!dj that is so hard

GracesGranMK2 Thu 25-Jan-18 19:48:07

It's one of the questions that comes up far to often Iam.

I did get a very strong sense that TJ feels she still has a job to do and that this was helping her. I can quite see why those knowing what can and can't be done for them at such a point are happy to try different therapies. Perhaps science can be too cautious at times.

Jalima1108 Thu 25-Jan-18 19:54:24

Well done Tessa, that was very brave.

GracesGranMK2 Thu 25-Jan-18 22:37:33

The NHS Rally seems to be doing what it set out to do and rallying people to the cause of keeping our NHS.

durhamjen Fri 26-Jan-18 00:23:12

labourlist.org/2018/01/hospital-overcrowding-at-dangerous-levels-corbyn-and-ashworth-tell-nhs-rally/

Interesting list on here, GracesGran, about the trusts in ministers constituencies.

jura2 Sat 27-Jan-18 20:56:27

Tessa was so dignified in her speech- so brave.

So Mrs May has again hinted, after meeting wiht Trump at Davos- that the NHS may well be part of a deal with the USA.
Was that the promise they made on that bus? Disgusting- apalling, tragic beyond belief. I sincerely hope it will cost them the next election- in fact, I'm pretty sure it will.

durhamjen Sun 28-Jan-18 10:16:38

Anyone in Maidenhead seen this?

durhamjen Sun 28-Jan-18 10:32:22

videos.files.wordpress.com/zkxCZosH/gavaghan-2501_hd.mp4

A doctor talking about the NHS.

durhamjen Sun 28-Jan-18 23:02:46

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nurse-year-left-live-says-11925474

A nurse with cancer talking about the NHS.

durhamjen Mon 29-Jan-18 15:18:05

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/29/nhs-doctor-must-leave-the-uk-to-look-after-daughter-in-egypt

Do we want doctors in the NHS or not?
Anyone else find this as ridiculous as I do?

Lazigirl Mon 29-Jan-18 17:49:28

Yes it is ridiculous and extremely uncaring. It seems to me that they make it as difficult as possible for doctors outside the EU to come to the UK and this at a time when the NHS is on its knees and EU medics are going home hmm

durhamjen Mon 29-Jan-18 23:05:32

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/jeremy-hunt-judicial-review-stephen-hawking-accountable-care-organisations-back-door-privatisation-a8184161.html

Hurray!!!!!

GracesGranMK2 Tue 30-Jan-18 11:28:04

It makes you wonder how many times this government will have to be taken to court before they realise they may parties with a majority may hold sway but it is Parliament that governs - all of it. This seems to be more of May playing Henry VIII again. For those who at linkaphobic this is the start of the article.

Professor Stephen Hawking has won permission to take Jeremy Hunt and NHS England to court over controversial proposals to restructure the health service, The Independent can reveal.

Mr Hunt has tabled a plan which could allow commercial companies to run health and social services across a whole region in what critics have described as allowing back-door privatisation.

Leading healthcare professionals and Professor Hawking have argued an act of parliament is required, allowing MPs and Lords to scrutinise the proposals, before the policy is implemented and any changes to regulations are made.

humptydumpty Tue 30-Jan-18 12:18:43

Haven't had time to read this enture thread, but it sounds to me like it is more of the same from the election - I know what's best and will do it, no need to consult with anyone else or be open...

durhamjen Tue 30-Jan-18 23:37:16

Lots of information on here about the People's Assembly meetups and demonstrations on Saturday.
Also Facebook information if you are on Facebook.

www.thepeoplesassembly.org.uk/nhs_fix_it

Morgana Wed 31-Jan-18 20:47:43

Be interesting to see how much coverage the event gets in the media. ...

durhamjen Wed 31-Jan-18 22:58:42

The last one didn't get much at all, but this one is just for the NHS, so might get some coverage, particularly with May being wounded now.

Jalima1108 Wed 31-Jan-18 23:03:40

Well, that was an interesting if rather short report on the NHS in comparison with the health system in Germany. We spend just slightly less per head on healthcare in the UK than they do in Germany. The German system is a mixture of state, private and charity funded - free at the point of delivery but so much better organised than our NHS apparently with no bed crisis and yet patients are kept in for much longer after operations for a period of recuperation; there has been a winter flu outbreak in Germany too but no crisis.

Why? And what could we learn from this?

Jalima1108 Wed 31-Jan-18 23:03:59

It was on ITV News at 10 btw.

durhamjen Wed 31-Jan-18 23:47:06

fullfact.org/health/global-health-spending-how-does-uk-compare/

durhamjen Wed 31-Jan-18 23:53:21

PFI? 2% of NHS spending that needn't be spent, that goes to profit rather than the NHS?

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 01-Feb-18 00:23:26

I still can't get my head around the Home Office setting the Tier 2 salary minimum at £55k, when there's a shortage of doctors who would typically earn £30k-£45k. The supply of EU doctors has virtually dried up, so hospitals are trying to recruit from outside the EU, but the successful candidates can't get visas because of the salary offered. And it's not that the salary is too low, it's the going rate. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.

GracesGranMK2 Thu 01-Feb-18 13:14:49

Jalima which was the link for the comparison with Germany please?