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Is this young woman a terrorist?

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jura2 Thu 04-Jan-18 09:49:03

Who am I?

I am a Palestinian girl.

Before I was born, the occupation took most of my village’s lands to build a new settlement called Halamish.

Then they arrested my father. When my aunt went to visit him, one of the soldiers pushed her over the stairs of the court and she died.

Since I was little the settlers of Halamish keep stealing more and more of our lands to expand the settlement.

Our home has demolition order because it is in Area C. The settlers are allowed to build on our land, but not us.

In 2005, the settlers made the spring of our village part of the settlement and prevent us from using it, even though many of us are farmers.

All these things happened with great support from the Occupation army and government.

When the people of the my village started to resist the injustices with protest marches, my father was arrested again.
My mother was arrested too. My uncles, aunts, brothers, cousins - all of them were arrested too.

My cousin Mustafa was killed by the Israeli army. My uncle Rushdi was killed by the army too!

Later, an Israeli sniper shot my mom in the leg and she couldn’t move for long time.

Almost every week, the army breaks into our homes to arrest one of my family or to confiscate our laptops or phones.
During our marches, they shoot us with tear gas rubber bullets - my cousin is in hospital badly injured because he was shot in the face the week before.

A few days ago, two soldiers came to our house to take positions to shoot at the demonstrators from my village. I stood with my family to prevent them, the soldier pushed me and I slapped him.
And now I am in jail!
My mother and my cousin are in jail too!
The occupation government and media call me a terrorist.
Do you know who I am?

And what would you do if that was your life? Or the life of your child?

OldMeg Thu 04-Jan-18 09:58:56

One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

paddyann Thu 04-Jan-18 10:02:20

no she's not,she and her family are being abominably treated not just by the Israeli state and I stress STATE but by the rest of the world who have stood back and watched while this happens .Makes me ashamed .Yes we all know the Jews went through hell in WW11 and before BUT surely that should have given them insight into how NOT to treat people...Palestinians NEED help from the rest of world

blueskies Thu 04-Jan-18 10:20:21

She is just a child and so brave. She will go down in history alongside Anne Frank. I hope my children and grandchildren would also stand up to occupiers. Didn't we fight against such thugs in WW2. We must stand by her and all the poor innocent children imprisoned and abused in Israel.

Jaycee5 Thu 04-Jan-18 10:22:27

No she isn't. She is brave.
The settlers also blocked off the spring where they got their water and shot her cousin in the face with rubber bullets at close range.
When fighting an illegal occupation it is legal under international law to use all means possible.
She needs as much support as possible.
Boycott Israeli goods and support Palestinian entrepreneurs through LendwithCare.org. It is not much but there is unfortunately not much that we can do.
It is at least heartening that virtually no country supported Trump's recent UN motion except those which are US dependencies in one way or another.

Primrose65 Thu 04-Jan-18 10:27:21

It's always difficult and probably inappropriate to take a view based on one story and one side - there are always 2 sides.
Start the story in 1948 or 1967 or any date you like. The attitude of both sides has been aggressive and combative. Neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis have the moral high ground in this conflict in my opinion.

jura2 Thu 04-Jan-18 10:28:18

Yes, she reminded me of 'Manon des Sources' (Pagnol)...

eazybee Thu 04-Jan-18 10:28:28

If she were my child I would not allow her anywhere near armed soldiers.
I would prevent her from slapping one, and I would not film her while she did it.
There are other ways to make political points without using your children.
According to a political correspondent speaking on radio 4 yesterday (sorry, don't know name or time to verify) this family is notorious for staging incidents to provoke a reaction. They may have just cause, but very wrong to use their child in this way.

Urmstongran Thu 04-Jan-18 10:30:26

There are 2 sides to every story with the truth somewhere in the middle ....

GabriellaG Thu 04-Jan-18 10:31:05

We o my know one side of the story here and read what the press choose to print.
Unless we have a clear and unbiased overview of the politics of the situation, we are not in a position to make any educated comment.

GabriellaG Thu 04-Jan-18 10:32:15

* Sorry. Should read 'only know'.

MinniesMum Thu 04-Jan-18 10:34:04

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moxeyns Thu 04-Jan-18 10:37:08

What Paddyann said.
My favourite Christmas present this year was a donation to my name to a library in a refugee camp in Syria currently populated by Palestinians fleeing from that kind of state-sponsored oppression.

quizqueen Thu 04-Jan-18 10:40:02

This is one side of the story that is being reported in the media. I don't know the full facts of the Israel/Palestine conflict but my gut feeling is always to believe and trust the Israel side in any story.

tigger Thu 04-Jan-18 10:44:52

Am amazed that she is allowed to use the internet while in prison.

maddyone Thu 04-Jan-18 10:46:07

Who is the person who wrote the original post? I would really like to know this. It could be anyone, based here or anywhere in the world. How does a child access the internet in a prison cell? What is going on here with this poster, I certainly do not know!
Don't believe everything you read comes to mind!

NannyC2 Thu 04-Jan-18 10:49:24

I have been to Israel - I have been inside a refugee camp - I have heard first hand experiences.
What do I do?
I pray for peace for all!

quizqueen Thu 04-Jan-18 10:49:46

Excellent post, MinniesMum, my same feelings entirely.

Jaycee5 Thu 04-Jan-18 10:52:06

eazybee She is not choosing to go near soldiers. She cannot get away from them.
How is it difficult for Israel to get out their side of the story? In the US it is only the Israeli side that is reported and the internet is international.
MinniesMum Israel doesn't donate building materials. It blockades building materials that other countries donate.
There is another side to the Rhoningya situation but whatever happened in the past, collective punishment is illegal and what is happening now is not an acceptable answer.
She living in what has now become an illegal settlement. Illegal occupiers do not have right on their side. It is like telling a battered wife that there is two sides to the story and that she must have done something to deserve it.

Jane10 Thu 04-Jan-18 10:53:20

It's just plain bullying. It's not right and it's not fair. I simply don't understand Israeli apologists no matter how they present their 'side'.

GabriellaG Thu 04-Jan-18 10:56:28

NannyC2

Praying does nothing other than make the person praying feel good about it.
Prayers have been said for world peace since the world (or religion( begsn and has it achieved anything? All those zillions of prayers have not changed anything lots and never will. People will never be at peace with each other. Religion begets wars and that's a fact.

sweetcakes Thu 04-Jan-18 11:15:20

Yes I thought the same tigger and maddyone, although this goes on and it's horrible there is something about this post I choose not to believe.?

Coconut Thu 04-Jan-18 11:18:08

GabriellaG you certainly have taken the words right out of my mouth ! We live in a beautiful world that is being destroyed by hatred, cruelty, greed, oppression, intolerance etc and nothing ever changes. The world has given billions to the Middle East, Africa etc over the years and what has changed ? We have sent our sons to be killed trying to fight others wars, and what has changed ? I quote “The world is a comedy to those that think, and a tragedy to those that feel”.

jura2 Thu 04-Jan-18 11:28:02

Start the story in 1948 or 1967 or any date you like. The attitude of both sides has been aggressive and combative. Neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis have the moral high ground in this conflict in my opinion.

Israel took a lot more land than was allocated- right from the start, and have never stopped their expansionism- never.

jura2 Thu 04-Jan-18 11:31:32

During the 1948 Palestine War, Israel overran far more territory than was proposed by the Partition Plan; Jordan captured and annexed the West Bank, while in the Gaza Strip the All-Palestine Government was announced in September 1948. In what is known as the Nakba, or "Catastrophe", hundreds of Palestinian villages and over 70,000 Palestinian homes were ruined and destroyed.[9] 700,000 Palestinians fled or were driven out of their homes by the Israelis. The Palestinian refugees were unable to return following the Lausanne Conference, 1949. they have not been able to return, and the expansion has gone on and on.

What else can the Palestinians do, apart from fight?