Is this young woman a terrorist?

Good post lemon.

Thanks for warning me merlotgran! In future I'll pass rather than being drawn in.
And yes lemongrove, this family is a pain in the posterior. I was just unhappy with the form chosen by Jura to involve us in debate. She/he could simply have begun the post with 'let us imagine this scenario' or '' I'd like to draw your attention to ........ .What do others think?" etc etc. Anything but fiction.

I agree with you Birene, but Merlot summed it up rather well. You'll know for the future.

So can I ask a question of all you folk critical of the OP.

Are you saying that Israel is right in its land grab? Or simply that you are annoyed at the way the OP was poised?

I am confused.

Some posters do use this technique; it is only after you have read a long post without any quotation marks that you might realise the words are not those of the poster themselves but lifted from somewhere else, therefore from someone else who may have their own agenda.

Still confused?

Well, it could be confusing whitewave.
Perhaps better to be upfront and state what the source is.

Is the child in the OP a real child or a generic child?
That confused me - knowing the source would be helpful.

Annoyed by the way the OP was poised, whitewave.

Birene- this family is a pain in the posterior- because they lost their land, their farms, their water, their dignity, their relatives.

Perhaps others agree- they should do all the above quietly- so should have the blacks and coloureds when their houses were raised to the ground in Cape Town- and they lost everything and wer sent to abject poverty in shanty towns- they should have accepted it all, quietly- discreetly, without fuss. So should the native Indians and the aborigines, and the Indians when colonised. How disgraceful of them to insist on fighting colonisation.

I am sure you would just lie down and say 'take it, take it.... it is only our livelyhood and life - no matter. Just do not want to be a pain at all- peace- peace and love.

I am not sorry that I don't agree, and wouldn't have either.

No!! I am clear in my mind of the sentiment of the OP.

I am quite happy about that..what I am confused about is the subsequent criticism.

Ummmm... I'm saying that both the Palestinians and the Israelis are as bad as each other whitewave. As for the young woman in question in the OP; when I first read about her, and watched the video footage, I remember thinking that she was being rather foolish with her own safety. The soldiers she was pushing and shoving made no retaliation at all. When I read further, I saw that she has posted several otherwise on social media, all showing her being aggressive and confrontational to armed soldiers. Whether she was a Palestinian, or an Israeli, I would think her foolish to do that.

jura, Beginning the OP with 'who am I?' was bound to lead to confusion among those who don't know you. You've just returned after a spell away from Gransnet so you can't expect everyone to be familiar with your often 'pearl clutching' style of outrage.

Other. Not "otherwise". Typo.

Who knows , perhaps Palestine would be a safer place and the conflict between Israel and Palestine be on an safer ground had Fatah NOT Hamas been in charge over the last decade.

It's all very well some people like Corbyn calling Hamas 'Our Friends' but the fact is Hamas is a terrorist organization and as recent as July 2017 the European Court of Justice upheld Hamas as a terrorist group.

Hamas and Israel may be experiencing even more trouble if the recent Islamic State / Hamas problems escalate, God forbid.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/01/04/islamic-state-throws-down-gauntlet-to-rival-hamas-with-video-execution/?utm_term=.4c29c08cd8fd

I did not realise there was a video, that would have been helpful in making a judgement.

Well if it is annoyed at the way the OP was put -what a lot of hot air!, when you could be addressing real unfairness and hardship in the land grab suffered by people who had farmed their land for millennia. (Or simply chose to ignore the whole thread.)

It is recognised by the UN as illegal.

The question I would like to put is what would you do if you were in this young girls position?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42535685

Here you go Jalima. Have a look and see what you think.

The question I would like to put is what would you do if you were in this young girls position
Well, I wouldn't go shoving and pushing a couple of armed soldiers, for a start. Nor would i encourage my daughter to either.

Difficult one.
Try to negotiate, because if I was killed and I was the only one between them and my DGC, who would then protect them?

Thanks Chewbacca

When the British army were in Palestine after the war, it was the Israelis who were the terrorists. They murdered British soldiers in the King David's Hotel. After our army left they helped themselves to Palestinian land. I know who I feel for.

Jura- now you are giving us your true, real opinions on the matter. Why on earth could you not have set out your stall honestly and passionately in the first place?
And please do not assume you know what I would do if I felt oppressed.
There are non violent methods of protest.
There was a rather sarcastic tone creeping into your last post by the way- which is unnecessary.

Yes pogs, , i think fatah with arafat at the head were much more amenable to some sort of peaceful solution but israel refused to work with him, and treated him without dignity especially when he became sick and later died abroad. Then hammas were elected. You might call hammas terroist but as we have already read many people were once seen as terroists, including a recent israeli prime minister edward sharon.

Merlot- I asked the question- and then copy and pasted from media- it was quite clear it was not about me.

And I intentionally did not comment, as I wanted people to respond to the story, and not to me, or my 'opinion'.

Birene- I do not remember seeing you ever on any post here - so no, I would never assume anything about how you would react. All I am saying is that I would hope that I would not lie down - and fight for my rights and that of my family and people. Please think of the position of blacks and coloureds under the Apartheid régime - how on earth could they have protested or fought with 'other methods' - their house and parts of towns bulldozed- their gardens, their animals killed - sent to live in shanty towns in the desert- how do you protest nicely and politely? How - how do Palestinians do that- watching their land taken, their basic needs, their orchards, their water - they have stones and slingshots- the Israelis have machine guns ...? How.

Not sure if some of the comments re 'protest peacefully' are totally naïve or ignorant of facts- or disingenuous and biased.