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varian Tue 09-Jan-18 20:37:46

Virgin Trains West Coast line will no longer sell the Daily Mail which it regards as "no longer compatable with VT brand and beliefs". Nigel Farrage has tweeted that he finds this worrying.

W11girl Wed 10-Jan-18 16:04:30

For once, or maybe twice(!) I agree with Nigel Farage. Just because somebody doesn't agree with something doesn't mean it is wrong or should be "banned". How narrow minded of Virgin staff. We need all sorts of views to make the world go round, harmoniously.

Legs55 Wed 10-Jan-18 16:16:27

varian I consider your comments offensive regarding the newspapers sold in Lidl, not a shop I use as I prefer other Supermarkets. I read the Express now, I used to read the Independent but even before it went on-line only it was becoming very expensive, DH read the Sun (I also glanced at it)grin

I swapped to the Express on cost grounds but I enjoy doing the crosswords & sudoku, if I don't like what's printed I don't read ithmmBecause I read a newspaper doesn't mean I agree with what's written or the Political leaningshmm

BTW I was a Civil Servant & also educated to HND level. Gather my helmet & flak jacket , exit room quickly grin

marionk Wed 10-Jan-18 16:23:22

Is Richard Branson still connected with any of the Virgin brands?

quizqueen Wed 10-Jan-18 16:37:56

I certainly won't be allowing Mr Branson to dictate what I read if I have the misfortune to be travelling on one of his trains. I will make sure I buy the Daily Mail before alighting and then openly flaunt it as I read it. The man is despicable. He one of the biggest remoaners out but chooses to be a tax exile so as to avoid contributing to this country's services and his Virgin headquarters are not even based in a EU country ( Switzerland) to reduce his tax bill even more. The man cares about nothing but his bank balance and I avoid using his companies wherever possible.

libra10 Wed 10-Jan-18 17:00:12

Richard Branson is also a strong supporter for remaining in Europe, while The D M has led a strong campaign for Brexit.

But surely Sir Richard wouldn't be influenced by this, would he?

MaizieD Wed 10-Jan-18 17:03:52

I certainly won't be allowing Mr Branson to dictate what I read

Does nobody ever read a thread before posting?

Branson has only a tiny share in the West coast line. He's not dictating what you can read on not his trains. They're just not selling the Daily Mail any more.

I feel tempted to offer you the usual Leavers' retort: Suck it up...

Marieeliz Wed 10-Jan-18 17:13:03

Strange but the DM runs out first in my shop. I suppose the anti brigade on here thinks they are better than those who purchase it. That's what comes across. The reason it is read widely is probably because the majority of the population agree with it.

They are not allowed to have their opinion though because it does not agree with yours.

jura2 Wed 10-Jan-18 17:15:02

Exactly Maizie

MaizieD Wed 10-Jan-18 17:33:48

Oh FFS, Marieeeliz.

They just can't buy it on the train on Virgin West Coast.

No-one's trying to close down their opinions. Just to belittle the hysteria...

durhamjen Wed 10-Jan-18 17:41:36

Agreed, Maizie.
I can't recall ever buying a paper on a train. I buy one before I get on the train.
By the way, legs55, the i costs 60p, and has sudoku and crosswords enough for most train journeys.

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 17:44:40

Jeremy Corbyn WILL let trains sell the Daily Mail once he renationalises the railways, his official spokesman declared today.

I am annoyed because they do not stock The Express and Star.

varian Wed 10-Jan-18 17:51:03

I would like to ask those who always buy the Daily Mail, "Why?"

Is it because it is light reading? Perhaps you like the reports on fashion? celebs? sport? tv? or is it because you agree with their political views?

If that is so I would like to know - how long have you been reading the DM? Have you ever had different political views? Do you think that your political views have been influenced - or even formed by the views of the Daily Mail?

I am asking this as a genuine question. The surveys after the EU referendum found that newspaper readership was one of the most significant determinants of voting pattern in the referendum.

The Daily Mail (and the Express and the Sun) told their readers in no uncertain terms that they should vote to Leave the EU and most of them did.

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jan-18 17:54:20

Its not "hysteria", its a discussion.

MawBroon Wed 10-Jan-18 17:54:46

Are you saying Richard Branson only has. a tiny share in Virgin West Coast line trains? confused
How so? MaizieD

jura2 Wed 10-Jan-18 18:02:00

Marieliz - racism, lies, mysoginism are not 'opinions'

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 18:03:30

So why are some posters on other threads getting so exercised about Branson and Virgin trains if he only has a 'tiny share'?

Virgin Rail Group own 51%
Stagecoach own 49%

Meet the management team:
www.virgintrains.co.uk/about/management-team
They ask: How can we help you?

varian Wed 10-Jan-18 18:36:28

I'm sorry I've not yet got any answers from the Daily Mail readers on GN.

I am genuinely curious as to why anyone would read the DM. I don't just mean read it occasionaly - I have done that. I mean read it regularly and agree with its political stance.

Did your parents read the DM? How long have you been reading it? Do you generally agree with the opinions expressed there? How many other newspapers have you read and why do you continue to read the Daily Mail??

This is a genuine question. I am trying to understand the DM readers on Gransnet.

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jan-18 18:50:12

I can't imagine anyone being too keen to answer that, given the onions here.

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jan-18 18:50:53

Ahem! Onions = opinions! blush

whitewave Wed 10-Jan-18 18:53:12

No one will admit to be a regular Fail reader varian let alone know why they read it

petra Wed 10-Jan-18 18:56:29

MissAdventure
Exactly.

MamaCaz Wed 10-Jan-18 18:58:51

I am related by marriage to a family of DM readers. I have heard them say "It tells it as it is".

It is like their bible - they have always read it and their political views have never changed, unless you count becoming more entrenched. They can quote many headlines years after their publication, and if it is pointed out them that some of it is pure lies, even with proof to back that up, they simply refuse to believe it, because they want it to be true. It seems to make them feel superior.

I stress that I am not describing all Mail readers here, just a group that I know well.

MaizieD Wed 10-Jan-18 19:02:44

Its not "hysteria", its a discussion.

Really confused

I certainly won't be allowing Mr Branson to dictate what I read

*Mr Branson isn't dictating anything*; your response is hysterical

West Coast is run by Virgin Trains, of which Branson owns 51% and Stagecoach owns 49%. I doubt if he had anything to do with the decision; it appears to be quite local and not even apply to his other franchises (I haven't seen them named as participating in the ban) I suspect both an earlier poster and I were confusing the West & East Coast lines. Virgin has only a 10% stake in the latter.

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jan-18 19:03:17

Its a shame to denigrate whole sections of society. It certainly wont lead to honest discussions.

Iam64 Wed 10-Jan-18 19:03:27

hello varian - I confess to reading the DM on line since I retired. Nope, it hasn't turned me anti immigrant/anti EU, anti Labour Party or Pro the return of hunting and secondary modern schools. I read the Guardian, the independent and occasionally (on holiday) the Telegraph. I read the DM on line with a degree of incredulity so far as it's political leanings go.
I'm slightly ashamed of reading it on line because I know the number of on line readers increases its advertising income. I often wonder if the country would be a happier and in fact a nicer place, if the DM stopped publishing for a couple of months. I don't want to appear rude but its right wing, anti immigrant etc etc stance has always been evident. As it was during the 1930's and early 1940's when for example, it ran many articles and headlines saying this country should not offer refuge to Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany. Not much change really.