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So - what is Farage up to now ?!?

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jura2 Sun 21-Jan-18 17:12:31

any thoughts?

durhamjen Fri 09-Feb-18 10:51:41

Debate at Cambridge University.

"Rees-Mogg, a grassroots favorite, hankered after incandescent light bulbs now banned by the EU and for the freedom to use pesticides banned by the EU on environmental grounds, saying that any Brexit in which Britain doesn't take back control of its laws, borders and money would be a "betrayal." He dismissed fears over the future of Britain's food supply after Brexit.

But ultimately, for all his popularity among Tories, Rees-Mogg failed to win over the students at Cambridge. Speaking alongside Labour Party donor John Mills and businesswoman Helena Morrissey, he lost out to the Adonis team, which included former Education Secretary Nicky Morgan."

Nice to know he's in favour of polluting the environment, after all we have been doing to try and improve it.
Pleased he lost.

MaizieD Fri 09-Feb-18 11:25:06

Ooh, this is fun...

www.byline.com/column/67/article/2040

"The Scenario:

Politics within an established, liberal democracy lurch suddenly to a conservative extreme and changes in the nation's direction occur at an alarming pace.

Within three years the political and social landscape is polarised and the checks and balances fail inside and outside of government. A leadership figure emerges who captures the more aggressive side of public sentiment and increasingly intimidating and violent acts suppress opposition, resulting in a shell democracy under which ever more draconian laws and controls and introduced to cement the power grab and crush any resistance."

Etc.

durhamjen Fri 09-Feb-18 15:11:06

And this.

infacts.org/may-finally-admits-benefit-eus-trade-deals/

What game do you think she is playing now?

durhamjen Fri 09-Feb-18 15:15:48

"Alarmingly, a number of less than credible Conservative MPs have mysteriously found themselves embroiled in allegedly violent protest events (Rees-Mogg and Davies), while another has publicly shown a purported threatening letter sent to a Brexit supporting constituent (Goldsmith). The events themselves do not stand up to any scrutiny and appear staged or suspicious, notably all of them claiming violence or aggression by parties wishing to remain in the EU. Right-wing news and disinformation outlets have been having a field day.

Disturbingly, genuine threats of violence and intimidation from the leader of Britain First, in support of Rees-Mogg, have been ignored, along with almost two years of extensively recorded and reported hate crime committed by racists and bigots. It has also transpired that right-wing groups have been training for civil war in secret groups."

From Maizie's link. It will not be believed, of course.

durhamjen Fri 09-Feb-18 15:43:48

infacts.org/brexiters-treat-soros-hero-not-villain/

In a comparison of Soros and Banks, I know which one I'd want on my side.

jura2 Wed 14-Feb-18 10:04:17

So, again, Farage is threatening the country if 'Brexit is twarthed' by the 'elites' sad

Ginny42 Wed 14-Feb-18 10:40:30

I see Richard Branson is supporting Soros.

durhamjen Wed 14-Feb-18 12:57:53

Is Banks still being investigated by the Electoral Commission? Haven't heard anything about that for a couple of months.

durhamjen Wed 14-Feb-18 15:14:31

youtu.be/57jRBt4h6ks

About trump.
I hope they've done one on Farage and Boris.

Ginny42 Fri 16-Feb-18 04:50:04

Thank you for the link DJ. Never heard of them before, but I enjoyed it. I listened to one or two more of their videos and their comments are transferrable to our government.

MawBroon Fri 16-Feb-18 09:17:26

“Twarthed” ? jura2?
Is that like “twerking”?

durhamjen Fri 16-Feb-18 09:18:03

Yes, good, aren't they? In fact, the first one I watched I thought was about our government - the revolving doors one.
Can't find one on Farage, though.

MawBroon Fri 16-Feb-18 09:22:51

I mean, did Farage actually say that?
confused

GracesGranMK2 Fri 16-Feb-18 09:24:09

Grr. Is it whitewave who often calls it the Brexit Broadcasting Company - well the retched Farage is on Question Time AGAIN next week - why? If he has to be on I do hope they put Femi on with him and people from all the growing anti-Brexit movements.

jura2 Fri 16-Feb-18 09:29:43

MawBroon: '“Twarthed” ? jura2?' -
thank you so much for furthering my education- now where is the outcry ?!?
Funny word, that - and as you may know- English is not my first language. I'd love to read some of you debating in French - mdr (mort de rire). Anyhow, will try harder in future, I promise ;).

jura2 Fri 16-Feb-18 09:32:46

Oh, and yes, he did. Wrote it in the Daily Telegraph:

'Mr Farage warned that the Government is betraying voters who supported Brexit because they are keen to stop mass migration.

He wrote in the Daily Telegraph: "The Brexit-voting public is not in denial over immigration. Many now want a total stop to it.

"For a nation to rise up against the establishment and secure a historic victory, only to have its hopes thwarted by an out-of-touch elite, is a recipe for dangerous division.

durhamjen Fri 16-Feb-18 09:35:02

This fits both places.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QK2xC4OfE&list=RDj3QK2xC4OfE

durhamjen Fri 16-Feb-18 09:38:37

GracesGran, did you hear the audience?
Farage and Diane Abbott. Should be a good programme.
Femi would be too much to ask for.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 16-Feb-18 09:39:40

wretched not retched

MawBroon Fri 16-Feb-18 09:40:08

Vive L’Entente Cordiale! grin

After Paws death I had to write quite a few letters and emails in French to his friends and my spellcheck/predictive text nearly had a nervous breakdown as it kept trying to change things back to “recognisable English”
I suppose I could have turned it off if I had known how to.

durhamjen Fri 16-Feb-18 09:43:54

He might not be able to go on if he keeps retching, GracesGran.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 16-Feb-18 09:50:14

I did think that while I got annoyed with the slowness of my brain Jen - otherwise known as brian when I don't spot that one!

varian Fri 16-Feb-18 11:03:25

Farage warned that the Government is betraying voters who supported Brexit because they are keen to stop mass migration.

Lord Livermore argued in the House of Lords last week that it is time for politicians of all parties to speak the truth: that immigration is good for our economy. The benefits of immigration are clear - it increases growth, provides more tax revenue, and helps pay for an ageing society. The greatest hostility to immigration is, in fact, to be found in those parts of our country where there are fewest immigrants. Reducing immigration won't solve the problems, because the reality is the problems were never caused by immigration in the first place

lemongrove Fri 16-Feb-18 13:26:01

controlled immigration is good, uncontrolled, as in the EU ,most definitely isn’t.
Immigration is just a part of being a nation that decides everything for itself.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 16-Feb-18 13:46:39

I am actually sure you know this now as it has been said on here so often Lemons but it just suits you to repeat the Leave lies.

Many of the EU countries have imposed controls. We could have done so. Governments have done so where they thought they would get the kudos. They were just to lazy and did not want to loose their whipping boy by setting up a proper system.

We could also have imposed some sort of registration for everyone going in and out so we actually have accurate figures instead of the nightmares of misinformation the Leave liars feed the MSM and their hangers-on.

They could have produced statics that were relevant. Yes they needed to produce them with students included but they could have also produced them without. The comparison would have been interesting.

If our own politicians had not found it politically expedient to be lazy and not do their own jobs, to lie and mislead so they could not be blamed for what they did not do, you and others would not be able to repeat the Leaver lies all the time.