Corbyn's Magnetism

So in 2010 he condemns people for spreading anti-semitism by using Facebook, he subsequently joins anti-semitic Facebook groups and comments positively on anti-semitic pictures.

It shows him up for the hypocrite he is.
A hypocrite and an anti-semite.

I am quite clear, from the LP manifesto, what the LP 'officially' wants to do. What I'm not clear about is do all these Labour 'centrists' want something different and if they do, what do they want.

It's easy for them to be negative about someone/thing but it seems that there's a great deal of reluctance to outline a positive alternative that 'the people' will get behind...

Jura - I will NOT support a clearly pro-Brexit, anti EU so called 'opposition' leader.

Corbyn has been Eurosceptic all his political life. Didn't you know? Surely you're not surprised?

I admired that in him. I don't dislike him but I do fear the way the Labour party has been officially hijacked by the far left. Many women in particular have torn up their Labour Party membership papers over the power given to male members (no pun intended) to self-identify as women and so set back the feminist cause.

Labour has adopted gender self-identity without considering the consequent impact on women.

"The current state of play is potentially disastrous for the Labour Party. Threads on Mumsnet, which can be considered from the real world as far as politicians are concerned, run into hundreds and hundreds of comments, overwhelmingly ridiculing and expressing frustration with the party, many of them discussing resignations or a change in voting intentions.

A recent poll suggests a six-point drop in support among women."

"As the zeitgeist moment continues to unfold, as some of us knew it would, the Labour party leadership seem frozen, out of touch and ready to surrender its feminist wing, which will be like chopping off its own limbs."

www.socfem.net/2018/02/women-must-be-consulted

So, Remainers and Feminists Labour supporters are worried about leadership of the party. You are not alone Jura.

Chris Williamson has just said that Owen Smith will be able to make his point more forcefully from the backbenches.
None of those complaining loudly about Smith being sacked said anything when Williamson was.
Both of them knew what they had said was against collective frontbench policy.

It was just said on the news that Smith will carry on stating his case despite being sacked; surely it's because he has been sacked.

There is however a large Labour Leave movement. That faction expected Corbyn's support, so his single market stance was a slap in the face and complete U turn by Corbyn. That one of the most prominent Eurosceptics ever wants to tie us to the EU is surprising to say the least.

Even the Guardian published an article headed One whiff of No 10 and all of a sudden Corbyn wants a customs union.

Labour leader keeps to script on idea he totally opposed only a few months ago.

No wonder people are worried. Corbyn seems to blow with the wind. He has allowed Momentum to manipulate the structure of the Labour party, not caring at all for the views of Labour members who worry about the far left infiltration. They are consider Blairites and they are disposable. Where, for example, does Harriet Harman stand? She has remained very quiet. Hypocrisy and self-interest has silenced the majority of Labour MPs, to their shame. Now is the time for them to stand up and be counted - but they won't.

labourlist.org/2018/03/council-by-elections-good-news-for-labour-and-the-slow-death-of-ukip/

Shame about the Ockendon result.

Corbyn doesn't blow in the wind. He knows that as leader he has to go along with what is decided at the conference.
He knows what collective responsibility means when he is in a position of responsibilty.

"Corbyn doesn't blow in the wind. He knows that as leader he has to go along with what is decided at the conference."

Yes, a conference dominated by the far left. Corbyn's shadow cabinet contains his allies. Momentum is also likely to influence who stands for Labour at local and general elections in the future. They have to be pro Corbyn for a start.

Members are not likely to hear any views from moderates or dissenters concerned about hard left infiltration. They'll be shouted down.

How come you know more about what is happening now than any Labour members on here?

Were they all naughty children, all these Momentum people?

www.indy100.com/article/left-wing-naughty-children-politics-childhood-8270661

A 'jobs first' Brexit starts to take shape.

Lots of people would love to lose their jobs and get £77,000+ from the public purse. Called benefits, aren't they?

I am suprised staunch remainders here don't agree with Owen Smith

I think they did Annie, until he was sacked. Then he knew it was coming, it was the right thing to do, he didn't toe the line, he was against Jeremy all along and they won't give him a second thought.

At some point, I'm sure I'll be criticised for mentioning Owen Smith in the future and I'll be trying to smear Corbyn with lies.

It's actually quite surprising to see how quickly people can remove their support for someone.

Seems so Primrose, so now Brexit is right for the country but leading up to the referendum it was wrong for the country , clear as mud really

Corbyn certainly does blow in the wind and he sits on the fence to do it
He speaks about kinder politics and gentler this and that, all a sham although he allows others to do the dirty work for him ( then he says ‘oh I can’t condone that....whilst doing nothing.)He’s a waste of perfectly good space.

Ah now I've got it. If Corbyn speaks out from the back benches and doesn't toe the party line, he is wrong. If Corbyn sacks someone from the shadow cabinet because they are speaking against party policy and not toeing the line, he is wrong. If Corbyn accepts a referendum decision, he is wrong. It's obvious now as my gran used to say "He can't do right for doing wrong!"

When Smith stood against Corbyn in the leadership election, he was beaten. He stood on exactly the same pro-EU stand that he espoused in that article.
So why would you expect those who supported Corbyn then to support Smith until he was sacked? Rather inconsistent there.

So the majority of LP members are not supportive of his pro-EU views Jen? They are more aligned with Corbyn's eurosceptic stance, is that what you mean?

I have no idea what the majority of members think. I just know that Corbyn was elected and Smith lost then, standing on the views they espoused.

What I also find funny is that people condemn Corbyn for being too weak to be PM, then talk about him purging the labour party.
That's inconsistent, too.

Purging the Labour Party is not strength , it shows fear and a desire to control . A good leader needs and earns respect

So all those people who voted for him did so out of fear, did they?

And saying that Corbyn is performing a Stalinist purge isn't trying to make people afraid?
He only sacked one person from the front bench.

Did all the people who voted for him know he was going to,purge the Labour Party?