Corbyn's Magnetism

Corbyn has his supporters defend him here but others see the defence of Corbyn and the LP in a different light. The Labour Party's handing of the outrage DOES NOT inspire confidence.

An article in The New Statesman today, by Stephen Bush.

* time and again, parts of the Labour leadership and many of its outriders treat worries about anti-Semitism as an attack to be swatted aside.*

The chair of an “independent” inquiry was almost immediately appointed to the Shadow Cabinet thereafter, with no real concern about how it would look or whether it would provide adequate reassurance to Labour members who gave testimony to Shami Chakrabarti's inquiry.

New media organisations that have gone out of their way to minimise and dismiss questions about anti-Semitism as baseless smears have been rewarded by preferential access from parts of the leader's office.

* Junior ministers, such as Clive Lewis, who last night retweeted someone describing the row as "smears", face no sanction from the party leadership for their behaviour.*

And that's why Corbyn's apology, in which he talked about “pockets of anti-Semitism” and apologised for the “pain caused” rang hollow for so many people."

That was a good article Day6. There's been 2 today in the New Statesman. It's good to see that some people can see this for what it really is.

www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/jvl/a-jvl-statement-on-the-current-attacks-on-jeremy-corbyn/

But we haven't just talked about Corbyn and anti-semitism have we? We asked for evidence that there are members of the Labour Party who are anti-semitic and no one posted any names. So we are not just supporting Corbyn we are asking that real evidence be produced instead of just speculation and smear. As no-one seems to know any Labour party members who are anti-semitic let's widen the search. Can anyone post an article that names anti-semitic Labour Party members?

You could start by googling a list of members suspended or expelled for anti-semitism trisher, if you're interested in a list of names. Or do you just want personal contacts who are anti-semitic?

Sorry, primrose, but you and others are claiming that there are lots of anti-semites in the labour party.
Just tell us some.
You can't, can you?

It's like asking Russia to prove they didn't poison the Skripals, asking us to google.

More Tory anti-semites

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Best ask Corbyn for names, he has apologised for them . Because I don't know anyone anti Semitic in the party means it doesn't exist? This must be the saddest attempt to admit the truth you have posted. If it didn't exist why has Corbyn apologised for it's existence ?

Best ask Corbyn for names, he has apologised for them.

Or we could ask all the Blairites and Cons who are happy to see the Labour Party attacked in this way and allow others to believe the smears and sneers echoed on here.

"It sounds to me as if Jonathan Friedland and the BBC have started a hate campaign against Jeremy Corbyn this morning, the vile statements continually coming out of of my radio are disgusting, BBC4 and BBC5 have continually hammered his reputation and this has got to stop. Its turned from an anti Semitism discussion to an anti Jeremy Corbyn programme. The public are very well aware of what the BBC are really up to, they are a propaganda machine for the Tory Party and they and the Tories have set out to destroy this honest, kind man who has principles and is winning the argument with his honesty, they are scared of him so they are using this hate campaign in an effort to save themselves in the polls. Disgusting behaviour. The BBC should be be concentrating on all the other important topics happening at the moment such as the alleged Electoral scam."

Excellent post in the JVL thread.

Just looking at the replies from Corbyn supporters on this page is example enough of the concerns raised by Stephen Bush of The New Statesman . (See post at top of page.)

Labour supporters now need 'names' and that is a pathetic response given the long term anti-semitic reputation of the Labour Party. Corbyn is defensive and so are his acolytes.

Criticism of Corbyn's comment on this mural's removal was first made in the Jewish Chronicle in November 2015. Interesting that so much is being made of it now. Just before local elections when the tory's are predicted to lose council seats, just when there are questions about potential election fraud involving govt ministers....

After seeing the rabble defending Corbyn at the demo at Westminster I feel ashamed that some think they are speaking in my name . This is the way they work now, shout loudly and verbally abuse. Corbyn has brought the party to this

Another post from the JVL thread.

"I was campaigning for Labour in Barnet at the weekend; a borough with a large Jewish community that could swing to Labour on 3rd May.

This couldn’t be connected, could it?"

Personally I think there is much more anti-semitism in the Tory party, and not just the grassroots.

But this isn't about the Tory party , it's about the .Labour Party

www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/(JN7434)%20A4%20Tory%20Racism%20Brochure%20SIN11-26629.pdf

Racism and anti-semitism in the Tory party.

... I feel ashamed that some think they are speaking in my name.

Perhaps, if they saw how you undermine the LP on here Annie, they might feel ashamed that you say you are speaking as an individual LP member which is what they are doing. That's politics.

Whose going to organise another faux outrage protest.

There is enough on that list to keep a protest going for a month.

What a lot of nonsense it all is.

The BBC have been more partisan than I remember them being since we listened to them broadcasting about the troubles in Cyprus while we were living their during the 60s. I never thought they would go so far again but this is the way the MSM works sadly. I just thought the BBC had changed over the years

oh sugar their there

I'm not Jewish but whatever I talk about, I recieve antisemitic abuse "I made my Question Time debut last week as a Labour MP. I was asked about Theresa May, about Brexit, about allegations of rape and how to deal with them and about statues of Margaret Thatcher. I talked about my work as a constituency MP, and as the longest-serving member of the Treasury Select Committee. I discussed my work against child sexual exploitation and abuse and spoke about the economy and immigration. And yet, when I looked at my phone, I found I had received anti-Jewish abuse and an antisemitic death threat on social media. I am not Jewish, I didn’t talk about Jews and I didn’t discuss the Middle East.

This isn’t the first time. I can speak out about knife crime and drugs and the tweets come in – “who is paying you to do your work” “Why don’t you admit you’re in the pay of the Israeli government” and the like. It is not just tweets though. One Labour party member called me a “CIA *****” for dealing with the “antisemitism nonsense” following an appearance I made on the Daily Politics at Labour party conference talking about the Brexit. Not all, but the vast majority of these attacks have come from self-identified “left-wing” activists or Labour party supporters.

Anti-Jewish hate and invective is becoming so obsessive, so fervent that irrespective of what an anti-racist activist is discussing, antisemitism is the online reaction. Last week, Phillip Collins, in the Times, highlighted the problem of Left wing antisemitism and the obsessive hate of Israel. He pointed out that most of the statements people make are not actionable. The death threat I received will be, but much of the abuse fell into the other category. As he said: the “tone of voice, the severity, the passion, the elevation of an issue that should be one among many to a defining idea of political identity.” ”It connects to a loathing of America and of capitalism and of alleged western interference in the Middle East. For the uncomplicated racist, hatred of the undesirable people is the starting point. For the complicated, confused leftist, the denigration of a people is their conclusion.”

But now it’s one step further. There’s a group-focussed enmity. Anyone who calls out racism, or seeks to address anti-Jewish hatred is a target. It’s even now the case that allegations of antisemitism are being inferred or created and attributed to Jews in order to try and diminish the charge when one has not been made. This of course, undermines victims of antisemitism and their right to define such abuse and call out the abusers." John Mann New Statesman 06.02.2018

www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/02/antisemitic-abuse-labour-jewish-social-media

I presume John Mann has passed all this on to the police, rather than just talking about it in the MSM.

No one has stated they support racism or anti-semitism. If as John Mann says he has been targetted in this manner he should be contacting the police and asking that charges be made.
He obviously feels it is OK to accuse people who want change of "hating" Israel and "loathing" America. Such emotive words. Most people dislike what Israel is doing to the Palestinian people, some people find the behavior of American politicians hard to take. Indeed the language he uses shares many features with the hate speech he is criticising.

Dunno durham. But you could contact him directly to find out? He's the Labour Party's Member of Parliament for Bassetlaw and Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Antisimitism. I'm sure you could find his contact details quite easily.