Comrade Corbychev's Cock-Ups

I wonder if action would have been taken if the comments had been along the lines of

“Hang yourself you vile treacherous black Tory filth. You are a cancer of humanity.”

“Ruth Smeeth is black—she has no shame—and trades on the murder of blacks by whites —whom the blacks betrayed.”

“First job for Jeremy Corbyn tomorrow—expel the black BICOM smear hag bitch Ruth Smeeth from the Party.”

“This Ruth Smeeth bitch is black, we need to cleanse our nation of these types.”

“#JC4PM Deselect Ruth Smeeth ASAP. Poke the pig—get all black child killer scum out of Labour.”

“Ruth you are a black plant, I’m ashamed you are in Labour. Better suited to the murderous ANC! #I Support Ken.”

or is it not considered racist to attack someone for their faith and heritage provided their skin is white.

Seems you are so right Oldwoman

Oldwoman - I agree too.
I was very uncomfortable about having the debate, as it singled out one racial group. Which diminishes the problem.
As well as black people, what about Muslims, Poles and other immigrant groups? And what about the fact that there are racists in all these groups too?

That's a good point Oldwoman70

Those Labour supporters slurs against the Jewish would not have stayed under the radar if they'd been about other ethnic groups. Why is it acceptable to subject a Jewish MP to them?

That there has been no condemnation by Corbyn speaks volumes.

Substitute 'black' for muslin instead of Jew, or use both where applicable?!! I wonder what the reaction from the leadership would have been. Sadly, in certain quarters it appears permissible for Jews,to be referred to like this., - how awful is that?! Quite astonishing!

Corbyn isn't going to criticise those who support him, several slurs refer to Corbyn. This man who speaks out against so much is the same man who greeted the abuser of Ruth Smeeth, who walked out of the commons when MP's from his own party were speaking out against the vile abuse they are receiving. How can anyone defend him ?

Beyond me annie!

But some will niggly

I absolutely agree with the comments suggesting that if the anti semitic comments had been aimed at Muslims or people from the black community, there would have been outrage. I have no doubt that Corbyn would have spoken out and I very much doubt Diane Abbott would have commented that she's had the worst abuse than anyone else.

I despair at those who minimise the abuse by simply linking it to the Israeli - Palestinian issues. I repeat what Ive said on previous posts, I do not support the ill treatment and oppression of any group and that includes the Palestinian people. None of that justifies the abuse that these two Jewish women MP's have been subjected to. It's unforgivable.

No one has ever suggeasted that the abusive and frankly unbalanced comments posted by a few people on social media are in any way acceptable. However if these comments contravene the law surely the best course anyone can take is to contact the police and ask that they be properly investigated and the offenders dealt with. The person posting may also be targeting other people and needs to be stopped.
I don't expect any sensible replies. This thread as with all the rest is just the same posters posting the same things.

And the same reply from you Trisher, do you think Corbyn was wrong to walk away whilst the MP's were speaking?

MPs walk in and out of the chamber at all times Annie usually because they have appointments, or other commitments. Sometimes even what might be considered very important discussions are poorly attended. I was in the chamber when the report on Bloody Sunday was being debated-there was virtually no-one there when I went in. I have no idea if people had left or had never been there. I have no idea why Corbyn left but it isn't unusual.

You will defend him no matter what Trisher, as long as you get a far left government you are prepared to excuse any depth he sinks too

The Saville report on Bloody Sunday being discussed in the Commons

youtu.be/qrHb3o6a1Fw

youtu.be/MKVGO2eZKvE

trisher you are right people leave the chamber all the time, however, one has to ask whether it was wise for him to leave during a discussion about the abuse directed to some members of his party and calling into question his actions, or non-actions on that abuse.

Leaving and entering the chamber is usually done between debates, not in the middle of one and not when the MP's you lead are speaking. Corbyn walked out because he doesn't give a damn that these MP's endure such vile abuse.

I was talking aboutthe debate Annienot the apology which of course all tuned out for. You can see it here
parliamentlive.tv/event/index/ab1c04a2-6aeb-4b82-8c47-7831b8a466ab?in=14:20:50&out=14:25:00
As I said very few present.
MPs leave at all sorts of times. Many are rarely there. The debates are there to present a public face, much of the real work goes on in committee and isn't seen.

trisher The fact he left during a debate which questioned his actions rather than stay and defend his position does make one question his priorities

Trisher , that was a discussion on setting up the enquiry , my links showed the house discussing the findings of the enquiry . Big difference.

The apology was not the reason for the debate on the findings.

The apology was the reason so many were there Annie a great publicity opportunity. I didn't claim to be there for the apology or the findings, simply for the Bloody Sunday debate and said few were there. It would be helpful if you could post comments about what was actually said and not what you imagine someone said. A discussion on setting up the enquiry was the Bloody Sunday debate, not the findings of the enquiry, which was a speech making opportunity.

Oldwoman, he cannot defend his pathetic stance on anti semitism,

One of his most ardent supporters is Mike Sivier, a Holocaust denier expelled from the party and surprise ,surprise , he is the author of vox pox, famed here for many, many links

marlonsolomon.wordpress.com/2018/01/20/the-ballad-of-mike-sivier/

It was not a debate on Bloody Sunday, it was a debate on setting up the enquiry for Bloody Sunday

So what do you think the debate consisted of Annie? How many angels can stand on a pin head?

The debate was on the setting up of an enquiry , you should know, you were there !

You are a supporter of vox pox links Trisher, do you think a Holocaust denier expelled from the party can be trusted to speak the truth ?