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Regret it Brexit?

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Bridgeit Tue 01-May-18 22:27:25

Now that time has moved on, but with a long way to go, does anyone regret the way they voted ? And would you still vote the same way if asked to vote again.

Apologies if this has already been discussed, I couldn’t see that it had.

nigglynellie Fri 11-May-18 11:40:02

more, not moral!!! ( but who knows?!!)

Jalima1108 Fri 11-May-18 11:50:24

Ironically, the latter quite often earns far moral than the former, but is still considered educationally inferior!!
That is true nigglynellie although our plumber complains that he pays his employees more than he pays himself!

varian Fri 11-May-18 12:11:03

Britain’s economy slowed to a virtual standstill in the first three months of 2018, the weakest period of activity in more than five years.

Office for National Statistics figures showed a sharp contraction in the construction sector, weaker manufacturing growth and a squeeze on consumer spending power contributed to GDP growth of 0.1% in the first quarter.

The chancellor, Philip Hammond, said the economy was strong and that the exceptional weather in late February and early March had been partly to blame for the slowdown. The ONS, however, said the “beast from the east” had been only a minor factor.

The performance of the economy was much worse than the Bank of England had been expecting and almost certainly puts paid to any chance of an interest rate rise when the monetary policy committee meets early next month.

www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/27/uk-gdp-growth-rate-slows-first-quarter

So much for what the Express refers to as the "brexit bonus"!

gillybob Fri 11-May-18 12:17:00

our plumber complains that he pays his employees more than he pays himself!

Sounds very familiar to me Jalima but a necessity where there is a skill shortage.

Joelsnan Fri 11-May-18 12:20:48

varian
There are many influences that impact on the ONS figures on the whole the global economies are slowing and are well understood to be cyclical.
Most economists have no better insight than gypsy Rosey Lee peering into her crystal ball.

varian Fri 11-May-18 12:23:40

This is not about crystal balls Joelsnan or any other way of predicting the future, it is about accurately measuring and reporting the damage that has already been done since the brexit vote.

varian Fri 11-May-18 12:27:00

Meanwhile, in spite of the poor performance of the UK economy, the EU economy grew at its fastest rate in 10 years in 2017, registering a 2.5% increase on the year before.

It is the highest annual growth since 2007, when the economy expanded by 2.7%.

The bloc of 28 countries put in a strong performance in the final quarter of the year, growing 0.6%, mainly driven by good economic results from Germany, Spain and France.

news.sky.com/story/european-union-economy-records-fastest-economic-growth-in-a-decade-11250315

Allygran1 Fri 11-May-18 14:52:18

The Economist article to be found on the link here: www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2018/01/economist-

Puts a balanced view between the pessimistic view and the optimistic view of Brexit.

cornishclio Fri 11-May-18 16:42:36

I voted remain and would do so again.

I think the negotiations and the period of instability and uncertainty that will follow us leaving the EU will cause the UK economy a great deal of problems and there will be higher food prices and I am not sure what the advantages will be to us for leaving. Unpicking all the laws and setting up all these new departments are just detracting from the real business of keeping our NHS working, improving educational standards and boosting our economy. It is also going to cost us dearly in financial terms.

I hear a lot about the EU causing all sorts of problems and we can make our own rules but nothing specific about what they stop us doing and why it will be better if we are just governed by Westminster and don't have the EU overseeing us too. People have bought into the Mail/Telegraph and right wing politicians vendetta against immigration and are convinced that this is the answer.

I disagree but the 51% have spoken so I am just preparing for the fallout. People say that remainers are doom mongers and have no faith in Britain being able to prosper alone and isolated but I would say leave voters are over optimistic and have not taken into account how the world works today but only time will tell. No one seems to think this is going to be a quick process so I am sure this debate will go on and on and on.

varian Fri 11-May-18 18:05:28

You are so right cornishclio but please don't give up hope that this madness can be stopped. Lord Kerr the legal expert who drafted Article 50 has stated categorically that it can be revoked. Lets hope enough people see sense in time. We need a peoples vote on "the deal".

lemongrove Fri 11-May-18 18:23:03

It won’t be revoked Varian and there won’t be a ‘people’s deal’ either.
There’s hope, and there is false hope.

Grandad1943 Fri 11-May-18 19:06:19

There will be a vote on the final Brexit agreement as parliament overall has ensured that a House of Commons vote must take place. The problem for both main parties in that will be that a substantial number of cross party groups have formed around major issues surrounding any Brexit withdraw agreement.

EU agency Labour, fishing and Northern Ireland to name just three are issues which may well bring any agreement worked out to a shuddering stop in its parliamentary progress due to it any number of issues having no majority in the house

Along with the above it is strongly believed that there is no majority in Parliament for a hard Brexit with no agreement whatsoever. So, possible parliamentary chaos with a General election in the late autumn or even the coming winter.

Of course, whether such an election would resolve anything is also debatable. My thoughts, what a mess.

varian Fri 11-May-18 19:08:14

Why are these leaver people so afraid of a democratic vote?

Grandad1943 Fri 11-May-18 19:18:04

There will be a vote cation, first in Pariment and should that fail, then within the whole nation. However, this time it will be at least a much better informed nation on the problems of Britain living outside the European Union.

Allygran1 Fri 11-May-18 19:18:48

Make a point Varian. Theresa May voted remain as did other cabinet members.

A friend who doesn't contribute to this forum but watches it, has just emailed me to as if your a subversive. I obviously said I wouldn't have thought so, just committed to your cause.

Grandad1943 Fri 11-May-18 19:19:25

Apologies should be Varian above not cation!

varian Fri 11-May-18 19:23:35

My goodness Allygran you've only been on GN for five minutes and you've already recruited spies who "watch but don't contribute" - impressive!

What's a "subversive"? I might decide to be one if I knew what it was.

Grandad1943 Fri 11-May-18 19:25:58

I like that one varion, great

mostlyharmless Fri 11-May-18 19:28:58

OMG!

Jalima1108 Fri 11-May-18 19:32:44

Thinkpol are on their way varian

Grandad1943 Fri 11-May-18 19:33:06

Just looked up the word subversive. It's a boat which travels underwater. Do you normally travel underwater Varion

varian Fri 11-May-18 19:35:42

I just wondered whether "subversive" (not "submersive") was part of the Daily Mail lexicon, akin to "sabotuers" or "enemies of the people", in which case I'd be happy to be one.

Jalima1108 Fri 11-May-18 19:41:18

a submersible varian
A subversive is someone who belong to the Libs Dems wink

ps yes, I did vote for them

Grandad1943 Fri 11-May-18 19:48:06

You mean a subversive is not an underwater boat. Oh well........back to Google.

varian Fri 11-May-18 19:54:48

LibDems? Surely you can't suspect that I'm one of those masterminds who are plotting for world domination?

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