Unintended consequences of brexit

How?

Mostlyharmless.

If you need to ask if that was contemptible, then I can't see any point in wasting my time adding any more to what has already been said.

Tell me why is it so important to you that people have chosen another psuedonym? Even the word you chose 'suspect' is really odd.
You know life is much nicer when we are nice to each other. Debate yes, insults accusations and suspicions no.

Thanks Allygran
I don’t think anyone who voted Leave is welcome on this thread, what a shame that people can’t talk about Brexit without hostile remarks.
I really don’t think the tide is turning Varian as when polled most are happy ( either way) with the way they voted and MP’s the same.
I don’t think, what what I have heard, that we will be staying in a customs union.

Varian and Mostlyharmless I notice you have both had postings removed by Gransnet. That is so telling.

Probably as well we did not see them.

It seeks that messages are deleted if we identify a poster as someone who had changed namel Nothing sinister about thatl

Lemongrove I think your right, but you know these debates are really important for remainers and leavers. I am sure you agree and it is always in the field of propaganda that conflicts are resolved, by countering with facts and informing with truth. We don't have to respond to everything thats put up. And the majority of threads are really good with positive exchanges.

Varian you don't think so, my view is different.

Anecdotal evidence - 2 of my neighbours have just put their house on the market- when I asked them where they were going I was told- ”Paris”- they are both medics, both Brits. I must say I wasn’t surprised.
But this isn't surprising because people have always emigrated, worked overseas, even before the referendum.

It's nothing new.

You know the rules Varian you have been here on GN long enough.Trying to identify a poster, or wild guesses about user names will be reported.

Exactly Jalima and anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all!

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

However, this is very serious - according to JL my new freezer (a German one) has been held up at Customs.

Presumably it is prohibited or restricted

Most doctors seem to leave the UK for Australia rather than any EU country, probably the sunshine factor and more money.

Yes, there are lots of British doctors and nurses in Australia.

In fact, DN and husband have gone to NZ - before the referendum.

Varian and Mostlyharmless I notice you have both had postings removed by Gransnet. That is so telling.

Probably as well we did not see them

More conspiracy theories allyg?

Just A Gransnet rule that doesn’t seem to feature on the talk guidelines.

I’ve reposted my comments Allyg.
Nothing subversive there.

Varian what's with the roses I don't get that?

Mostlyharmless, Please to hear it.

Mostlyharmless.

If you need to ask if that was contemptible, then I can't see any point in wasting my time adding any more to what has already been said.

Tell me why is it so important to you that people have chosen another psuedonym? Even the word you chose 'suspect' is really odd.
You know life is much nicer when we are nice to each other. Debate yes, insults accusations and suspicions no.

I honestly have no idea what youre talking about. This is all lies. I said none of that.
What are you on about?
Accusations and suspicions?????
You're the one who seems skilled at that.
You need to be more careful with your accusations!!!!

Jalima Doctors have been leaving the NHS for a long time I think, long before the referendum.

This is a sincere apology to Mostlyharmless the post below was intended for Varian.
There was no intention to lie about you as you put it, it was an error and I sincerely apologies for that. I will be more careful to check the name on a posting in future. Please forgive me it was an error.

This was for Varian. Not mostlyharmless:

If you need to ask if that was contemptible, then I can't see any point in wasting my time adding any more to what has already been said.

Tell me why is it so important to you that people have chosen another psuedonym? Even the word you chose 'suspect' is really odd.
You know life is much nicer when we are nice to each other. Debate yes, insults accusations and suspicions no.

Thank you for the apology Allyg.

I see little point now in discussing Brexit on line. It's much easier to discuss face to face what we THINK may happen once we are out of the EU than write about it.

There aren't any certainties yet. Brexit threads tend to become comfort clubs for Remainers who write post after post about how awful life will be.

It's not the flippin' Apocalypse - we are waving goodbye to a massive group of bureaucrats in Brussels and taking our billions with us. I imagine everyone is aware we replace the EU with partners more favourable for the UK. What deals could be, struck with the rest of the world?

Online discussion serves no purpose. It's full of animosity even when no one knows for sure how things will pan out.

It's akin to standing at a roulette table and throwing dice at it. The wheel is still spinning. No one knows where the dice will fall. Until the deals are done much discussion is biased and tbh the gloominess of Remainers on GN is depressing. The Remainers I know are now more or less waiting to see what happens and it doesn't cloud their vision, cause such angst or make them nasty.

Apprehension might be appropriate on both sides but I tend to read optimistic outlooks, from groups like the one Allygran wrote about. There are many, many of them out there!

I like to think that in 'real life' if we weren't aware of our political allegiances and the way we voted in the referendum we'd all get on.

Brexit threads are like bear-pits and quite futile really.

Online discussion serves no purpose. It's full of animosity *even when no one knows for sure how things will pan o*ut.

This is the bit that really upsets Remainers. The absolute refusal of Leavers to face facts. 'Nobody knows' is not a fact. It's a comforting evasion of reality which rejects expertise acquired through study and experience. The rejection of the latter (experience) is particularly irritating when it comes from an elderly group which prides itself on the validity of their opinions because they are based on years of 'experience'

Exactly Maisie.

My neighbours who are going to Paris are going because they want to live in the EU. Ok this can’t be generalised but it is a direct result of Brexit and they are not alone.