Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

Who is SJ Mary ?
Still wonder why Lord Lucan was introduced into the thread, though.

Grandad spot on

Is SJ short for Saint Jacob, the new patron saint of the far right?

I don’t think there is any evidence that JRM and friends are making a bid for power at all, or does wanting to make their voices heard over Brexit count as that??
Things will settle down for the Government when we have formally left the EU.What a poisoned chalice being the PM is!

Is that it Varian ? then we now have a saint Jacob and a saint Jezza.

I am guessing it's Sajid Javid Lemon ?

I like him. He seems very fair, well mannered and articulate.

I do have trouble with his name I have about three variations in my head and when I try to write it. I always think "Davvid" or Davyd (as the Welsh pronounce David?) Forgive me Welsh Grans if I have that wrong!!!

Savid Javid
Sajid Davvid
Savad Jivad..

It's the combination of letters! Causes me a dyslexic moment, every time! I always have to double check that I have it right!

Poisoned chalice did someone say? Well really, if anyone brought their problems upon themselves it’s the PM. Not much work there for any chalice to do.

Oh how disappointing Day6 I liked the idea of having two Saints in Parliament, particularly as they would both be SJ.

All these saints, it's like being back at school!! JRM is not making a bid for the leadership of the Tory party! As Lemon says, things will settle down once we've formally left the EU, hallelujah!
Grandad, you seem to know more about annies political affiliation than she does. I think she would know if she supports the party or not. As I understand it and I could be wrong, it's the present leadership that she has an issue with, not the party as a whole, so for you to be so dismissive of her is to say the least uncalled for.

Oh I think any PM has a poisoned chalice during their time in Office, certainly Blair and then Brown did, and then so did Cameron ( so poisonous for him he had to leave immediately.)

What a poisoned chalice being the PM is!

Isn't it just - especially this tenure! May has had to hit the ground running. I am surprised she is not a nervous wreck. She gets flak from all sides, even her own ministers.

No PM would win this one. The Brexit negotiations are stacked against her...and would be for whoever was PM. Can you imagine Corbyn in charge of the Brexit negotiations? Could he deliver a mandate from the people? That would be truly frightening. He blows with the wind over so many issues. I can't imagine he would honour anything if it wasn't to HIS personal taste. Look at how he has prevaricated and blustered regarding cleansing the party of its anti-Semetic issues.

Mrs May is also a Type One diabetic I believe so she is injecting insulin throughout the day and balancing it against her food intake. That in itself seems to be a personal workload/danger few of us would want. I admire her strength.

I agree Day6
Polls show something like 19% of people think Corbyn would handle Brexit well against 39% who think T May is the better politician to handle it.

it's the present leadership that she has an issue with, not the party as a whole, so for you to be so dismissive of her is to say the least uncalled for.

Well said nigglynellie. Annie is not alone in her distrust and dislike of the present Labour party. Far from it. Labour is losing women voters too regarding the Trans women/self ID issues.

I agree with everything you say Day6. So easy to criticise, so easy to know better, so easy to offer advice, not so easy when you actually have to do it!! I've made no secret of my admiration for Mrs May in her handling of this particularly poisoned chalice, heaven only knows who else could even remotely take on this task in either party, including, perhaps particularly JRM!!

Anniebach, was given the opportunity of entering into debate and criticism of the Labour party's largest political opponents in this thread. This topic is also not about the leadership of the Labour party as there are other threads on that subject which she has posted in very often in that regard.

However, along with others anniebach has entered this thread without in any of her posts engaging in a serious manner in regard to the topic raised. I therefore respectfully feel that she has sacrificed all credibility on this forum. In that, if as as she claims she is a long-standing member of the Labour party anyone would believe and think that she would wish to engage seriously in debate and criticism of the Conservative party in this topic.

Not only has she Brexit to negotiate (and imagine how multi-layered and complicated that is, with so many people like legal experts and economists to consult) but she's had the Russian nerve agent poisonings AND the Syrian bombings to keep on top of. All those are MASSIVE undertakings involving diplomacy and meetings with world leaders., and all in such a small time frame! One would be enough...all three major incidents (as well as keeping impulsive Trump contained vis a vis the UK) would test anyone's leadership skills.

She's done it without any frills, self aggrandisement or ego. She's a strong woman.

I thought this was a fun thread, all those inane LOL’s by the
O/P .

I respect Mrs May, I have no respect for Corbyn.

I am a member of Welsh Labour. Doubt it will be so come OUR leader’s end of office. If a friend of mine decides to stand for the leadership I will remain, if she doesn’t I may support a different party. Against me leaving is not getting the emails asking for my opinion, I so enjoy replying to those .

nigglynellie, Theriesa May "bought" her continued premiership from the Northern Ireland Democratic Unionist Party at the cost of overall billion pounds to UK mainland taxpayers. Even with that she has not been able to provide a stable negotiating position for the UK in the most important talks this nation has ever engaged in throughout modern history.

The above is the reason the right wing hawks in the Conservative party are now circling especially with a General Election becoming ever more likely in the Autumn.

I for one have no sympathy with the position of Theriesa May

Interesting (in a jaw-dropping manner) the way Grandad critiques the way in which an opponent of Corbyn uses the thread.

No one needs your approval or permission to post Grandad, nor do they have to toe any line YOU deem acceptable regarding discussion of Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party.

And I would like to respectfully say, One cannot feel one is being found wanting by such an insignificant bore. LOL

* Grandad* can post whatever opinions he wants - where is he saying that he has to give approval or permission or have to toe lines? FWIW when does * ab* ever criticise the Government? It’s fair to point that out as she is a LP member and you’d think she woukd have plenty to say about this current shambles

No one gives me the opportunity to take part in any discussion on this forum, good grief what an ego

I am still preoccupied with the shambles caused to the Labour Party by the ‘three quid and I am anyone’s ‘ leader

Day6, as stated this thread is not about Corbyn or the Labour party. A few weeks back I spoke of JRM and the Conservative party in the Corbyn thread. I was then immediately informed by anniebach and others that I was engaged in "diversion" of the topic and thread.

One rule for one and one rule for others it seems on this forum. Perhaps you have to read the Daily Mail to be in the second group.

And I Maryeliza have the very same freedom to post whatever I wish , within the rules of the forum .

Corbyn is a hypocrite, a liar, and an ex lover of Abbott, I assume ex .