Lord Lucan was far more interesting ?
Alphabetical Girls' and Boys' Names Oct '25
With an open attack on Theresa Mays handling of the Brexit negotiations many in the media believe that Jacob Rees-Mogg has made his first open move in a bid to become Conservative party leader and Britain's next Prime Minister.
Rees-Mogg in yet another of his ongoing interviews with the media lambasted "weak" Theresa May for preparing the UK for "Brexit failure". Rees-Mogg stated that with The British negotiators going into each set of negotiations with an attitude of "we will kowtow before you, Mr Barnier in every way you possible throughout these talks" there is no hope of success for the UK. The foregoing are undoubtedly harsh words indeed even from an arch hard line Brexitier, but many believe that there is far more to Rees-Moggs words than just Brexit.
It may well be that this hard line right wing politician has witnessed the way that Jeremy Corbyn has moved the Labour party to the left and now feels he could carry out the same in the Conservative party with the exception of that move being in the opposite direction in regards to political ground.
Evidence to the above can be seen in Rees-Moggs attack on Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davison, for in the same interview he stated that Davison should not be allowed to marry her longtime same sex partner as planned. However, same sex marriage legislation was put before parliament and passed in 2013 under the David Cameron coalition government.
In making the above comment Rees-Mogg is undoubtedly looking to damage Ruth Davison, who also is seen as a possible next leader of the Conservative party. That stated, it is also being seen as a move against centre ground Concervatives in parliament.
In the above can be seen shades of Momentum's original moves against centre Blairite MPs in the Labour party.
Lord Lucan was far more interesting ?
Stick to the thread topic anniebach and then you will not get criticism and be subject to scrutiny. In other words, go along with your own advice you gave me in the Corbyn thread and do carry out "diversion" especially in such a foolish manner as your posts in this thread.
A great pity IMO that the OP brought the Labour Party into this discussion in the first place. Plenty of other threads talk about him.
The original topic of the appeal of JRM to the Tory parliamentarians versus grass roots is sufficient in its own right and I’m interested in what people think about that without dragging in Jeremy Corbyn, but now too dilute to disentangle.
Anniebach, was given the opportunity of entering into debate
Oh how kind.....but Anniebach reads as she likes and posts as she likes, as do we all. It's not by invitation or approval.
along with others anniebach has entered this thread without in any of her posts engaging in a serious manner in regard to the topic raised
Is Annie sitting a test? Is this an end of term report? Do you use a red pen to mark all posts Grandad?
I therefore respectfully feel that she has sacrificed all credibility on this forum
Because she does not wish to engage in a prescribed manner, and to your liking? And there is NOTHING respectful about a damning critique of Annie's contribution to this thread.
anyone would believe and think that she would wish to engage seriously in debate and criticism of the Conservative party in this topic
Oooh. Just a tad controlling and dictatorial there Grandad. We are not playing follow my leader, you know.
Yes, I totally agree winterwhite. Perhaps now we can get back to my opening topic, and I would certainly be interested in anyone's opinion in regard to JRMs appeal to the members of the Concervative party and his victory leadership.
Check the O/P, Corbyn, Momentum
You're right about Lord Lucan annie. 
As I stated earlier in the thread winterwhite, Theresa May "bought" her continued premiership from the Northern Ireland Democratic Unionist Party at the cost of over a billion pounds to UK mainland taxpayers. Even with that she has not been able to provide a stable negotiating position for the UK in the most important talks this nation has ever engaged in throughout its modern history.
The above is the reason the right wing hawks in the Conservative party are now circling, especially with a General Election becoming ever more likely in the Autumn.
I for one have no sympathy with the position of Theresa May but great sympathy for all others in great Britain being in the hands of this most bungling of all governments.
However, along with others anniebach has entered this thread without in any of her posts engaging in a serious manner in regard to the topic raised.
I couldn't find anything serious in the assertion in the OP that Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership. nor can I find much evidence to back up the claim.
So, forgive me Grandad, if I thought the whole thread was a spoof and not to be taken seriously.
especially when you kept popping off to water your plants
and yes, it did rain, but perhaps not enough to give them a good soaking.
It’s fair to point that out as she is a LP member and you’d think she woukd have plenty to say about this current shambles
Maryeliza I hadn't noticed Anniebach holding back in her criticism of the current shambles under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership
- and, as far as I know, she has been unwavering in her support of the Welsh Labour party which, with Carwyn Jones as leader, distanced itself from Corbyn.
his victory leadership.
Have I missed the news? 
I missed a conservative leadership challenge and JRM was elected ?
another Tory leader with dignity
Anyone only has to look at many of the posts in this thread to realize why the Conservative Party is down to a total membership of seventy thousand with an average age of seventy two according to its own Bow Group.
Aged, out of touch and not wishing to engage in a changed Britain. That's the State of the Tory party and its supporters today, again as can be witnessed on this thread.
Being lectured by a babe 
Oh give it a rest Grandad, has it never occurred to you that those of us who are not far left wing labour members are just getting a little bit fed up with you lecturing us about how dreadful the Tories are, how low the membership is, and how we on here are just old fossils left over from Empire. That's as may be, but at least we don't sneer and jeer at, lets face it the most appalling opposition in modern political times, perhaps we're just too polite! Incidentally, my 15 year old granddaughter constantly puts LOL, it's irritating enough from her, but excruciating in a senior citizen!
nigglynellie, perhaps you are "fed up" with hearing how low the Tory party membership is, how aged it is and out of touch it is, because it is the truth. (LOL)
some of us do not have to hide behind "claimed" Labour party membership to state the above fact. (LOL)
That's as may be, but at least we don't sneer and jeer at, lets face it the most appalling opposition in modern political times, perhaps we're just too polite!
Good god, nellie
Did I imagine a whole succession of anti-Corbyn threads which petered out not so very long ago?
Not on this thread though!! You're entitled to your views Granddad, but personal attacks on annie, are not appreciated on here, that's the long and the short of it!
We all have the right to put our views on here, and any other thread on GN, the person who starts the thread does not control it.
I doubt there will be a GE in the Autumn.I think there won’t be another until ( at least) we have formally left the EU.
Well said Niggly 
Am not a fan of LOL either ( don’t know anyone who still uses it) especially when used after an insult.
the Conservative Party is down to a total membership of seventy thousand with an average age of seventy two according to its own Bow Group
Repeating the above, over and over again (has there been a thread where he hasn't used it?) obviously gives left wing, Corbyn-adoring Grandad a thrill. Shame that the number of members in a political party doesn't have any bearing on General Elections. Corbyn's Labour lost the last one, btw.
Shall we play buzz-word bingo with it? 
lemon, using LOL following an attempt to belittle someone is just simply - slyness , it’s what bullies do , think back to school days, they would hit or trip someone up then giggle.
Perhaps Grandad is a young man, given that he dislikes anyone 70 or over and considers them out of touch.....oh wait, is it only the people he thinks are Conservative voters?
All older Corbyn supporters are naturally in touch, down wiv da kids and will never reach 70+.Or if they do,they will still be youthful in some way.
Exactly Annie 
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