Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

As someone who has worked for the Labour Party for over fifty years , ‘not a Johnnie come lately’ I have canvassed for every general election, if you haven’t the brains to know you need to win over non party members and never, ever insult members of other parties then take up tiddlywinks, takes less brain power .

nigglynellie, if you look through my posts in this thread you will see that I have not made a "personal attack" on anniebach. I have stated that as a "claimed" to be a member of the Labour party she has never stated a word of support for the party she is a member of, or made any criticism of the Conservative party on this forum, at least in the time since I have been a member.

A strange kind of member many would think I believe.

Lemongrove, much of the media, especially social media now believe that a General Election is becoming more and more likely in the autumn of this year. There are a number of factors that bring those conclusions about. The first being that there are several cross party alliances that have formed in parliament on various issues that could well "scupper" any agreement made with the EU.

Splits within the cabinet may well mean that Britain is never able to draw up a concerted agenda to be put forward as an agreement to the EU negotiators. Along with the foregoing, there are several other issues that mean a General Election has to be called, with the Irish border issue being the largest.

One thing is certain that the Conservative party will not wish to have Theresa May as their leader in any forthcoming election and that is the reason Jacob Rees-Mogg has been openly critical of Theresa May and Ruth Davidson in his recent press interviews.

Undoubtedly, JRM and his wing of the Conservative party feel their time has come.

There’s a lot talked about on social media which doesn’t mean that it is either correct or will happen though.

Lemongrove, the volume of talk on social media in regard to any subject and does demonstrate the thought train of the of large numbers of people in those matters.

It does not mean that any circumstance will come about, but it does very much help in "pushing" matters that way.

Grandad - Undoubtedly, JRM and his wing of the Conservative party feel their time has come

You know that fake news thing we should all be aware of........?

I see the press is full of this story - NOT.

Grandad says it's undoubted though. Hmmm.

Who can argue with that?!!

Day6 I posted links through Google to Daily Telegraph and Guardian reports on the JRM interviews in this thread. Perhaps they put forward fake news in their pubilcations you then believe. (LOL)

Hell bells.

grandad, you speak Momentum speak.

Rees Mogg wants out, has always wanted out so nothing new there .

Corbyn has always wanted out, he let down party members who wanted tovremain by refusing to take part in the leaders tv debates leading up to the referendum .

So Rees Mogg has spoken out about Brexit and what he wants, this is not a bid for leadership, your O/P was rubbish, it was just Momentum speak.

I will not condemn Rees Mogg for being honest, I will condemn Corbyn for being so dishonest,

Why should I condemn another party when the one I belong to is a shambles.

So just back off, I have ants to deal with and they do bother me . With respect your posts bore me.

I have stated that as a "claimed" to be a member of the Labour party she has never stated a word of support for the party she is a member of, or made any criticism of the Conservative party on this forum, at least in the time since I have been a member.
but you haven't been a member for very long as far as I am aware, Grandad.

I was thinking the other day that so much of the vitriol on threads has coincided with the rise of Momentum and the election of Corbyn as leader.
It was never so divisive until then - people debated and discussed without the sheer nastiness that has been evident since then.
If you don't support Corbyn then you must be a Tory apparently.

Anyway, I am about to watch the film "Darkest Hour" on Google play movies. It portrays the first weeks of Winston Churchills premiership. He was also someone the Conservative party thought would never lead the party, and look what happened there.

Yes he got Attlee out .

You have had some attention, now enjoy your film.

"Yes he got Attlee out ."

Was that good or bad, Annie?

I was too young to be involved Yggdrasil, remember the hatred of Churchill in the mining valleys . I don’t think the 1945 and 1951 elections can be compared with all elections since, we had come through WW2.

For me every election has meant a fight for a labour win untill Corbyn, I have never supported communism and cannot forget the damage caused by unions having too much power. I so want a labour government but not a far left government. As damaging as a far right government.

Grandad I've said the same thing to AB I've NEVER seen her attack the conservatives over anything on here .I come from a family who were at the very roots of labour and quite frankly my granny would be spinning in her grave at the shambles the party she was one of the first woman members of is in.Labour is NOT an opposition .I am not a memebr of that party I'm Member of the Scottish National party who are by far the most left leaning arty in the UK

Paddyann, do butt out, I will post what and when I choose

In fairness , Paddyann, you couldn’t have been on this forum when Cameron was PM, if you were you either ignore the political threads or have a problem with your memory or choose to post an untruth. Has to be one of these.

Sinn Fein, SNP. Plaid Cymru . Hardly parties which are working for the UK.

I think the rise of JRM is probably being seen as a good idea in the Conservative party. There is after all a gap with the demise of UKIP and if you are looking for votes that might be seen as a real opportunity. I wonder how many letters the leader of the 1922 committee currently holds on Mrs May and if that is what is awaited . Perhaps a few more and she will go the way of IDS.
As for the debate about Corbyn and the "far left" I have frequently been labelled as communist and 'far left'. It is a silly accusation that some on GN throw at anyone who expresses vaguely socialist principles whilst they also loudly claim that of course they care. It's just incredibly dificult to ever uncover what the 'caring' involves apart from loud assertions that they are 'centre left' whilst endorsing policies that have seen the devastation of a caring and supportive state.

Whereas the Conservatives are REALLY working for the UK - tell that to the vulnerable and disadvantaged - but then ab you probably agree with most of their policies

I come from a family who were at the very roots of labour
that's interesting, I would love to know more about my family's thoughts on this; my father was always staunch Labour.

Perhaps your family and Anniebach's knew each other then, as I think she has said hers were too - who knows!

Another personal attack on annie, can't you people just give it a rest!

I have frequently been labelled as communist and 'far left'. It is a silly accusation that some on GN throw at anyone who expresses vaguely socialist principles
I think people may have that impression because you said you followed your grandfather's ideals and politics and that he was a communist.

Perhaps posters got the wrong message from that statement, if so, I for one apologise.

I suppose I could be termed vaguely socialist

tell that to the vulnerable and disadvantaged

Who have, sadly, always existed. I was one of them.

NO PARTY has erased the disadvantages of society. WE have a welfare state. What more do we have to do other than recognise disadvantage, try to compensate and ensure it continues, along with the NHS.

I was btw, on Incapacity Benefit after illness, as sick as I have ever been and unable to work. Tony Blair's government stopped me and thousands of others from claiming it, before you tell me that only Labourites have compassion - which is a myth, but a good oft repeated soundbite.