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Melania’s Jacket deserves a thread of its own

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maryeliza54 Fri 22-Jun-18 08:50:33

How, how, how could that happen? Is she completely devoid of any sense or empathy at all? You go to visit caged children who have been ripped from their parents and you wear a jacket proclaiming ‘ I really don’t care, do you?’

Pebbles77 Fri 22-Jun-18 12:11:26

Just something I have picked up on .... part of a culture ....

Minerva Fri 22-Jun-18 13:06:37

That’s a terrible slur on the millions of decent Americans who are horrified at what is happening in their country. You might as well say that all Brits want us to shoot ourselves in the foot by leaving Europe. Nearly half of us don’t

Fennel Fri 22-Jun-18 13:08:41

Maybe more a lack of sensitivity.

icanhandthemback Fri 22-Jun-18 13:09:04

Pebbles77, just because Trump was voted in, it doesn't mean that the Americans have no scruples. Apart from anything else, you have to look at the proportion of the population who voted for him.
I have no idea why MT chose to wear that jacket but I thought she was sympathetic to the women and children so I wondered whether she meant that she didn't care about Donald's view on the subject. I am more certain that she wasn't trying to be disrespectful for the situation with children than not but I prefer to see the best in people.

Iam64 Fri 22-Jun-18 13:11:16

Dreadful message to have on a coat when flying off to ask "what can I do to help" and having joined other (previous) First Ladies in expressing distress at the policy of their government.
When have we ever previously seen her in a £39.99 jacket from Zara. Never. It's impossible to believe she and her multitude of advisors weren't fully aware of how the message on the jacket would be seen by the vast majority of people, world wide.
For the Donald to pop up and say the message was directed at Fake News will no doubt play to his supporters but not to anyone with an ounce of sense and compassion.

Eloethan Fri 22-Jun-18 13:36:51

Jaycee5 I agree with you re the US destablising countries - there are countless examples of their interference.

yggdrasil Fri 22-Jun-18 13:38:11

inishowen: She has sex with Donald Trump. Enough said.

Donald Trump has sex with her. As well as others. She has been known to "walk into doors".
The unusual thing here was that she went to see the children on her own account, not where she was told she had to be.

Eloethan Fri 22-Jun-18 13:42:24

I've just seen the jacket. I doubt that she meant it to be applied to the plight of the children but the very fact that she didn't realise how inappropriate it was to wear it speaks volumes.

MawBroon Fri 22-Jun-18 13:49:28

People who wear clothes with a “message” cannot pretend they had no idea nobody would read it can they.
I hate the attempt at subliminal communication.
The only “message”I have ever unequivocally liked was Magritte’s

Baggs Fri 22-Jun-18 14:02:36

I feel sorry for Melania. Michelle Obama is a hard act to follow.

Mind you, I think almost anyone would find Michelle O a hard act to follow.

Do husbands who do things we don't like get judged in the same way as wives?

I'm finding it hard to believe the words on the jacket were about the children. That assumption doesn't make sense, as some people have pointed out already. Whereas, the assumption that the slogan is about the media does make sense without any stretch of imagination.

Someone mentioned Occam's Razor on another thread recently. Applying it here makes the latter interpretation about the jacket the more likely one when Melania had already said she cared about the children.

Urmstongran Fri 22-Jun-18 14:16:46

I take a totally different viewpoint to many expressed on here. I think she’s siding with her husband about ‘fake news’ in that DT’s administration isn’t the only one to have separated kids from their parents. Obama did it too. Some comment in the USA news is that DT’s detractors want to push against his (limited) engagement with N. Korea. Who knows? But she’s not stupid by any means.

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Jun-18 14:19:04

Of course she didn’t mean it to be applied to the children - but it shows how completely unthinking, uncaring and frankly stupid she is to have worn it. She’s FLOTUS for goodness sake not a reality TV star - oh wait a minute....

Sheilasue Fri 22-Jun-18 14:26:34

Trump and her are a bloody disgrace and so is the Republican Party to let trump get away with it. When I think about all the things Obama tried to put through for the good of the people it was always stopped by the republicans.

varian Fri 22-Jun-18 14:30:48

Melania obviously has a number of advisors. The advisor who told her to make that visit and the advisor who wrote her script got it right. The advisor who told her to were that silly jacket got it spectacularly wrong.

lollee Fri 22-Jun-18 14:56:23

I can't believe that anyone would wear such a jacket at any time or in any place. To make a statement that you don't care is tantamount to telling everyone to take a hike as the person cares about nothing but themselves. And wearing such an item is just as bad as saying the phrase.

Cherrytree59 Fri 22-Jun-18 16:04:04

She knew exactly what she was doing.
A model in a former life.
Always wears designer clothes.
On this occasion she chooses a 2 year old jacket from Zarahmm

BlueBelle Fri 22-Jun-18 16:11:08

That whole family need putting on an island and leaving
Utterly DISGUSTING
of course she knew what the slogan meant and if she didn’t then she’s thick how on earth can she wear a jacket with that slogan on to go to the very place it’s referring to and then say oh it didn’t mean that. It is crass, vile, horrible and time the world spoke out against them

NfkDumpling Fri 22-Jun-18 16:51:20

If Donald said it was to do with fake news to cover up I definitely think it was aimed at him!

(Is English Melania’s first language?)

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Jun-18 16:56:56

No she’s an immigrant ( you couldn’t make it up could you) with whose visa there was a great deal,of jiggery pokery

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Jun-18 16:59:36

They are playing out their totally disasterous marriage in front of the world’s press whilst children are being bussed hundreds/ thousands of miles away from their parents

NfkDumpling Fri 22-Jun-18 17:05:09

I thought that was the case, so I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt and think that she was getting at Donald without realising the alternate message she was giving out.

The trouble is, I quite like her!

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Jun-18 17:23:33

Benefit of the doubt? You must be star struck

mostlyharmless Fri 22-Jun-18 17:53:17

I thought the message was deliberate, but I didn’t think Melania was saying she didn’t care about the children, but that she didn’t care what DT thought about her campaign in defence of the children. Probably had just had an argument with DT and threw it on as a protest.

I might be wrong here, I didn’t think she wore it when visiting the detention centre, just onto the plane.

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Jun-18 18:09:58

Of course she wasn’t saying it about the children but she might as well have been because what she and he are doing is behaving like two spoilt kids and playing this out against the backdrop of the children and this is absolutely unforgivable. POTUS and FLOTUS - how dare they? They have no respect whatsoever for the position they hold nationally and internationally and the damage they are doing.

Marianne1953 Fri 22-Jun-18 18:42:23

It maybe a message to her husband about the trip, perhaps he didn’t want her to go.