Trump Blimp

He’ll see the media coverage.As for flying the blimp making us as bad as Trump what a truly ridiculous to post. Honestly - you've rather got this blimp thing just a teeny weeny bit out of proportion.

Am just contributing to the thread Marye ( said mildly)
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Its a mutual back patting exercise for those involved "oh aren't we witty and clever" but its an ill thought out own goal.

It challenges nothing. What's the end goal here? Will trump supporters hear about it and think twice? No of course not! they'll think "well look, DT was right when we said that London has descended into a mad mad style lawless dystopian wasteland... lets not be like them, go Trump!"

Its not smart. And its not a protest. Protests expose/highlight truths or aim to stop or block a specific injustice. I cannot see how it qualifies as either. Its just self congratuling & embarrassing.

I think I probably know more about UK human rights than you do.

wow trisher now who is making assumptions?

I maintain that the UK, and the USA for that matter INCLUDING pre trump, are NOT internationally reviled as a barometer of human rights by anyone other than themselves!

Honestly - you've rather got this blimp thing just a teeny weeny bit out of proportion.

If the blimp was of, say, Jeremy Corbyn or Sadiq Khan, for example; would that be considered acceptable? And would the howls of protest be considered justified or a teeny weeny bit out of proportion?

I've given you some of my involvement in human rights notanan. perhaps you would like to enlighten the rest of us about what you are doing to further human rights in the UK or the US, in fact anywhere.
It's an artistic statement about a US President. It will be seen by many. It is a protest (a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.). It's funny, it's irreverent, it's different. There will be many other protests and this is just a small part of the anti -Trump movement.

the blimp is also indicative of our time. Its not just the blimp. Rather than think "how can we come together and fix this" the public prefer to lash out with low blows.

Social media is judge jury and executioner and people are more interested in being "in" with their own faction than they are in being constructive and building bridges & healing wounds.

I don't mean with Trump as an individual. But with his supporters. Its convenient to think of them all as bad people not worthy of a voice but they're not. Its like Brexit: lets not listen to each other as its easier to label each other as idiots who are wrong about everything.

IMO the way to "get at" Trump is to not do what he wants us to do. He will love the blimp. Not the blimp itself of course, but what it says about us. What he will say we are saying to his supporters.

The heart of Trump is his followers. The more bridges burnt with them, the less likely his support is to weaken.

notanan they may not be bad people, but they have made bad choices, There are many Americans who dislike the policies being put in place and those are the people I identify with. .

If someone wants to pay for a blimp of Khan or Corbyn then they should go ahead and raise £18,000 for it. Why not. If Khan had said no to a pro Brexit demo or whatever there would be howls of protest that he was politically biased. The Mayors office just has to say whether this or that protest is legal or not, not that they agree with it.

Would the blimp be "funny, irreverent and different" if it was of Jeremy Corbyn or Sadiq Khan? Or is it only foreign/overseas visiting politicians, whose ideas we find unacceptable, that we can ridicule? Someone up thread said that Trump is childish and that why the blimp was chosen. Protest against him by all means, he deserves it -- and more--, but this "protest" is as childish as he is. It makes us look as as ridiculous as Trump is.

I refuse to accept the views of people who are racist, xenophobic and bigoted. Most Americans didn't vote for Trump anyway.

Unfortunately his itinerary brings him to Scotland.
I'll watch with interest what happens here as lots of protests are planned but I 'll watch from a distance as I'll be in France with the DGCs.

I refuse to accept the views of people who are racist, xenophobic and bigoted.

peacekeepers don't "accept" views. They just listen to them without belittling. Half the time that alone is enough to take a volatile situation off the boil.

But when being righteous matters more than the end goal, nothing gets better. Things just get worse & more polarised. Support for extremists strengthen. And people like Trump enjoy the spoils.

no real opinion on the balloon,although it really just feeds his vitriol,
it cannot be flown around,it is a tethered ballon,best you are gonna get is about 90ft in altitude.think macys cartoon balloons for xmas parade.
but would very much like to have it in october for our new mexico hot air ballon festival,
would make a great target..............

Sorry, peaceful protest should not be compared with war.It has always been a means for the people of democratic countries to express their views. I suppose believing this makes me a "Nasty Woman", like Hilary.

Chew just like your bff lemon you post that the blimp makes us look as ridiculous as Trump - how absolutely pathetic. DT is not ridiculous , he is dangerous and evil. How dare you say that flying the blimp makes us like him- now that is ridiculous quite frankly. You clearly know absolutely nothing about him or else you do and you think what he does is ‘ridiculous’.

We’re best friends forever Chewy now ( and we haven’t even met!) the wonders of the internet hey?

Good post notanan 16.12.40.

Mary it is "like" him because he deals in hate, fear and division.

The way to really get at him is to not act hatefully... he knows how to play/control divided people full of hate. It doesn't matter to him whether the hate is directed at him or on his side, either way its the tool of his trade.

He wouldn't know what to do with a pragmatic crowd!

I’ve said I think the blimp is not a good idea because it detracts from the evil that is DT. But for anyone to suggest the remotest moral equivalence between flying a blimp and DTs words and actions is ludicrous. Really ludicrous. Flying the blimp is not dealing in hate, fear and division - just read about his latest speech for more examples of that.

There are many Americans who dislike the policies being put in place and those are the people I identify with. .

Those aren't the people whose minds we want to change though are they?

It isn't hateful to protest. It is a peaceful means of showing opposition. It is amazing how many people seem to know how Donald Trump thinks. This is a man who can't even tweet a considered opinion. There will be crowds and I wonder how many of those opposing this Blimp will be amongst them. Not many I bet, because beside opposing the Blimp they actually endorse some of Trump's policies. And how the Blimp can be hateful I don't know-it's a sodding balloon FGS.

notanan2 on't you get tired of picking others posts to bits? Those are the people we want to show support for and will.

Trisher... You quoted me in that post! if you didn't want me to reply and just wanted to make a general point, maybe don't address the post to my username?