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notanan2 Fri 06-Jul-18 12:16:59

Im not at all pro trump but IMO this is awful

It is not a "protest". Ive been on protests. They have a point and an aim

What is point/aim here?
That they don't like his appearance & don't want UK to even try to negotiate?
They don't want us to be the "bigger person" as a nation? they want us to be as childish and petty as him?

Its embarrassing and diplomatically dangerous, NOT an exercise in constructive protect or free speech

Jalima1108 Sat 07-Jul-18 18:02:20

I think ignoring him is the best protest we could all make.
He has such an inflated ego that he may well think that this Blimp balloon is a welcome for him.

I am sure he hates to be ignored.

Jalima1108 Sat 07-Jul-18 18:05:31

The hypocrisy of going to town to show disapproval of Donal Trump eludes me. I wish the protesters would go to the Embassies of Syria, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Burma/Myanmar where 1000's have either gone missing, imprisoned, killed or fleeing conflict but the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi were feted and goodness knows how Iran and Assad of Syria get away with so little complaint from some.
I do agree with that POGS - and it is the POTUS who has been invited here, regardless of who is in the position at any time.

Rather than protest or fly silly balloons, those who wish to could just ignore him, as I suggested above.

Jalima1108 Sat 07-Jul-18 18:10:03

We as a country base our reputation on standing up for human rights, fighting for the under dog, preserving freedom and speaking out against those who threaten to destroy these concepts.
Yes, I agree and I hope we do trisher

and that is why what POGS has posted is so puzzling:

The hypocrisy of going to town to show disapproval of Donal Trump eludes me. I wish the protesters would go to the Embassies of Syria, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Burma/Myanmar where 1000's have either gone missing, imprisoned, killed or fleeing conflict but the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi were feted and goodness knows how Iran and Assad of Syria get away with so little complaint from some.

suzied Sat 07-Jul-18 18:13:06

Nothing to stop you going to those embassies and organising a demo POGS if you feel so strongly about it. It’s called freedom of speech.

Jalima1108 Sat 07-Jul-18 18:19:37

I take it you don't feel hat strongly about those countries that POGS has mentioned suzied - well, not as strongly as posters on here do about Trump's visit.

PECS Sat 07-Jul-18 19:33:17

Actually there are quite a lot of protest movements that do challenge other regimes. Generally I do not think UK gov have invited leaders of said countries for an official visit.

Jalima1108 Sat 07-Jul-18 19:37:35

Really PECS?

China?
Myanmar?
Chile?
and who can forget the love-in between Blair and Gaddafi?

I am sure there must be more

suzied Sat 07-Jul-18 19:39:24

I don’t wish to go on a demo about the countries POGS wishes to demonstrate against, buts if she organises one I may consider it. I have been on a few demos in my time NHS hospital closures , anti war and the like. I won’t be going on an anti Trump demo but I think people should have the freedom to do so. I think the idea that you can’t demonstrate against a certain thing unless you demonstrate about all the other injustices in the world is a bit bonkers.

maddyone Sat 07-Jul-18 22:00:39

I guess it’s just that some injustices are worse than other injustices, there is a scale of injustice unfortunately. I wish there were no injustice in the world, but that’s not going to happen in my lifetime I’m afraid. Whether or not people protest is really up to them, but at the end of the day, what posters are discussing here appears to be the scale of injustice, and which particular injustice they find most upsetting. For me, Assad is definitely more evil and has facilitated more injustice than Trump. That’s my opinion, but do not read into that, that I approve of how Trump has behaved.

PECS Sat 07-Jul-18 22:11:44

Yes really Jalima

Iam64 Sun 08-Jul-18 08:10:52

The Mayor of Sheffield has banned Mr T from entering his city. Of course, it would need the council to approve this but what a hero. He wore a Sombrero during the council meeting and declared 13 July to be a day when Sheffield is in solidarity with Mexico.
Come on Andy Burnham smile

sunseeker Sun 08-Jul-18 09:34:31

Was Trump planning to visit Sheffield - does he even know where it is?

maddyone Sun 08-Jul-18 09:57:37

Ha ha Sunseeker, I’ll bet he doesn’t, at least not the Sheffield in the UK.

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 10:26:21

Probably thinks Sheffield is yet another no-go area!
Wish he thought that about Scotland!
Hoping Scots will simply turn their backs and ignore him.

Jalima1108 Sun 08-Jul-18 10:39:39

Yes really Jalima

I am not quite following your train of thought here PECS, sorry. Perhaps I have missed something

Iam64 Sun 08-Jul-18 11:44:14

The Mayor of Sheffield knew full well Mr T had no plans to visit his city. The Mayor was a child seeking safety when he arrived in the UK and is re-paying his safe haven with public service, and a GSOH

lemongrove Sun 08-Jul-18 13:18:18

I doubt ( in any case) that even had he been in deadly earnest, the mayor of Sheffield would have any such power,
Not like the mayor of New York, haha.

Iam64 Sun 08-Jul-18 13:44:53

It would need a full council meeting to consider and vote lemon. Was Sheffield previously known as the Socialist Republic of Yorkshire? Whatever, I’m still enjoying this Mayoral jolly

lemongrove Sun 08-Jul-18 13:48:46

Was it?
Am from a different part of Yorkshire Iam but Greyduster would know.
It certainly has some great amenities nowadays .

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 14:05:27

Khan should mind his own affairs. London has enough problems for him surely. Knife crime at an all time high, Moped mugging's rampant.

Trump is the elected President of America and as such the 'office' of President of America should be respected. As has been said in others way's, the UK has had State visits, by despots, treated to all the pomp and ceremony that Britain has to offer, but because they were not high profile very little was said.

There is also a difference between 'making fun' by TV programme makers, and the Mayor of London, being involved in this sort of undignified and demeaning of the "office" that Khan holds.

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 14:19:53

It really is a pity that the Mayor of Sheffield has not got enough to do improving the lives of the people of Sheffield, rather than engaging in child like self promoting stunt's.

Whilst I can see why the Mayor of Sheffield might wish to see how the American steel tariff might affect what steel production there might still be in Sheffield, I cannot see why as a flamboyant, OTT elected official himself, he cannot see that his behaviour is not that far removed from that of Trump.

I think that Sheffield was known as "the socialist republic of Yorkshire" but that is when Scargill ruled the roost.

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 14:21:10

mcem "Wish he thought that about Scotland!
Hoping Scots will simply turn their backs and ignore him."

Why?

Fennel Sun 08-Jul-18 15:07:02

Have you not read the history of the Scottish golf course Ally?

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 15:18:26

The question is to mcem Fennel, not you.

Fennel Sun 08-Jul-18 15:24:52

Well I'm answering it too because I've followed the story and feel the same way as mcem.
I've been having another look and it seems he's losing a lot of money on his 2 golf projects, so that's a bit of recompense.