Labour Party and anti semitism

It’s pointless actually to go on because there are not enough posters engaging in the thread, not because of anything that Annie says.

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....and as a last comment, JC did better than expected at the GE because May ran such a very poor campaign!
That reason, and only that.

Totally disagree. I wasn’t a particular fan of JC until I listened to him campaigning - actually listened to what he was saying, and how he was saying it. I was a convert. And I wasn’t alone.

What struck me was here was a politician who actually answered the question put to him, unlike May who just turned it aside and answered (in a fashion) a question which hadn’t been asked...her own agenda, as most politicians do.

So I agree May ran a dreadful campaign but don’t underestimate the campaign run by Corbyn. You should never underestimate your enemy.

lemon, varian, he is not suitable to be PM, yes bang on when a backbencher but not as PM. A PM can’t refuse to meet a head of state because he disagrees with their politics. He went to N.I. this year and said again he supported a united Ireland, he forgets if he did win an election he would be PM for all in N.I. He was really buttering up again to Sinn Fein, if they take their seats in the house he can be sure of their support so no difference to May and the DUP

I agree lemon it is pointless to continue this thread

www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-media-bias-labour-mainstream-press-lse-study-misrepresentation-we-cant-ignore-bias-a7144381.html

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Do you believe that the anti-semitism row that has followed Labour since Jeremy Corbyn became Labour Leader is all to do with media bias?

Have I misread your link?

Where on earth do you get your information from Annie? Since when was Corbyn ‘buttering up again to Sinn Fein’. Could it be from deliberately misleading adverts from the Conservative Party.

Let me quote this from an article of misinformation

“Political parties also used misleading information on their official social media accounts.
The attack advert on Corbyn by the Conservative Party, which spliced together a variety of speeches into seconds-long soundbites, suggests that he did not condemn bombings by the IRA and that he also called for the abolition of the army.
In fact, he condemned all bombing  —  including that of the IRA  — while his “abolish the army” quote was taken out of context. The video has had more than 7 million views.“

Even if Corbyn was "buttering up again to Sinn Fein" it is surely very little in comparison with bribing the DUP like Mrs May. Sinn Fein is after all an accepted political party and not the terrorist group that it seems some people still believe.

Peter Willsman, ally of Corbyn, member of the NEC was recorded saying - Jewish Trump fanatics were behind some reports of anti semitism, he also questioned the evidence of 68 Rabbis who wrote an open letter to the party over anti semetism concerns and claimed “they can falsify social media very easily.

Tom Watson - Peter Willsman disgusts me , he is a loud mouthed bully. There are calls for him to be suspended .

Owen Jones has posted that there is no way now he will vote for Willsman.

Willsman has apologised so the party considers the matter resolved.

There’s a surprise

This Willsman sounds a real pest and a troublemaker, as well as apparently an antisemite. Who on earth has heard of him? How can he cause so much unrest? He surely should be got rid of pdq.

Blinko, he is a member of the NEC and a long time friend of Corbyn. Seems making a vile racist comment is acceptable in the NEC if you say sorry . No further action for him but there is for Margaret Hodge and Ian Austin by the very same NEC . Suppose the media will be accused of bias against Corbyn by his devotees even though the recording has been made public.

It is strange that a leaked tape should be available just now, however Willsman has been known for a long time as a loose cannon who berates people. His place on the NEC is of course up for election, so it is a difficult time to actually take action. As for his friendship with Corbyn everyone must have at least one friend who opens their mouth and puts their foot in it. Of course there is also the interesting fact that he is a deadly enemy of Jon Lansman. Which brings you back to wondering about the tape being leaked!!

Talk about a nest of vipers! I think I am beginning to see what Ian Austin means.... How unfortunate that HM's Opposition is in such straits just when they're needed to focus on the job in hand, ie. challenging HMG.

No matter the tape was leaked or why , it’s what he said and said in a NEC meeting, he apologised if his remarks upset anyone, he did not apologise for what he said. How long can some dismiss or deny the fact the party has anti Semitics in it’s midst .

He will not face further action but two MP’s will. As he said in his blurb for re election to the NEC I have been a friend of Jeremy’s for 41 years.

It is interesting that the most abusive description was "Trump fanatics"

I wonder how many brexit supporters would be happy to be called Trump fanatics?

I am sure that some, like the ghastly Farage, woulds take it as a compliment.

This was nothing to do with brexit, he said Jewish trump fanatics and also said the 68 Rabbis could falsify social media very easily, this was an attack on Jews at a NEC meeting by a NEC member, the same NEC who judges anyone accused of anti semitism

In the Jewish community there are rightwing and leftwing supporters, as in other groups. Those on the right tend to support Netanyahu and Trump.
As I see it, most Jews are insecure in their position as incomers. They like Trump etc because he gives them a sense of security. He has influence money and power.
I read some of the Jewish press, and even those supporters of Trump are beginning to see flaws in his sincerity.
There are also influential religious Jews who still support the Labour Party.

And how do you know Jews on the right support trump?

And what on earth do you mean - Jews are newcomers and Trump gives them a sense of security. He has influence and power.

I have heard bizarre efforts to defend Corbyn’s failure to act against anti semitism but Fennel this is the most bizarre

I can only take your post Fennel claiming Jews have a sense of security with trump then you spesk of his wealth to be no different to the mural wall painting, I am shocked at your post

Annie you need to broaden your reading. This is a much bigger issue than Corbyn and anti semitism.
Not sure what you mean about the wall painting.
I know that Jews on the right support Trump because I speak to them, and read their newspapers.

No Fennel, do not turn thusly back on me, explain how Jews are newcomers please

I meant incomers, you consider Jews incomers? How long does any race have to live in this country before you class them as incomers ?

If we are talking about Jews in the USA, then they have been arriving, as have people from other cultures and religions, since the 1600s, in various waves.

Trump's ancestors arrived relatively recently in comparison.