Frank Field

maddyone, I too read the accusations that Margaret was receiving money from Israel.

The day she gave the interview one could see and hear a woman at breaking point. She had been and is the victim of abuse, her fellow colleagues,Jews, had also been victims of abuse and still are, she must have very deep wounds and the attacks on Jews since Corbyn became leader must have caused her such distress , she tackled Corbyn face to face, not in the press, pity there wasn’t a glass door near to him he could have done a repeat performance of hiding behind a glass door. If he was a decent human being he would have been understanding , but he isn’t .

trisher, Margaret did not mention the holocaust, this keeps being repeated by Corbyn supporters, she did not.

Annie re Grampas post about German Jews being able to afford to leave - it's true . It was the Polish Jews most of whom were poor, who suffered the most. And there were many more of them. Millions of poor Jews in Poland were lost.
"Poland's war dead at 6,028,000; 3.0 million ethnic Poles and 3.0 million Jews". Wiki.
In Germany where there were fewer Jews and they were more prosperous more were able to leave the country before the Holocaust.
"Overall, of the 522,000 Jews living in Germany in January 1933, approximately 304,000 emigrated during the first six years of Nazi rule and about 214,000 were left on the eve of World War II. Of these, 160-180,000 were killed as a part of the Holocaust. "
Face the facts.

Fennel, strange how some have to bring Jews and Wealth into the same discussion.

Frank Field has to withdraw his resignation or he will be thrown out of the party in two weeks.

He has questioned why this doesn’t apply to the Lords.

What matters is that someone who has always been, and still is, an outstanding constituency MP in a poor and impoverished community and has devoted his life to serving his constituency and who thought well enough of the current Labour leader that he added his name to his nomination papers for that leadership, has been driven to such extremes by the revelations of what that leader has said in the past and is still mealy mouthed about condemning now, that he has resigned the Labour whip and is even considering resigning from the Labour party.

He is not Jewish, but described as a 'practising Anglican'. His decision to resign the whip is an act of altruism and principle, that cannot be matched in either of the two main parties.

Face the facts.
Goodness Fennel!

I am quite shocked by some of the posts on this thread and the nit-picking about exactly which nationality people were who were murdered by the Nazis.

There were Jews from many countries who were sent to the camps. The 'lucky ones' were able to flee, leaving everything, their whole lives, behind them.

motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394663#4

Perhaps Corbyn should be sent on a fact-finding mission to the Museum of Remembrance or a concentration camp.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/list-of-major-nazi-concentration-camps

maddyone thank you I found the article. Can we clarify that 252 statements were investigated, the article did not say how many of these were found to be LP members. It is shocking but not necessarily a party issue. There is of course anti-semitism everywhere in society and comments on social media are not necessarily from party supporters.

Jalima, I think you should say the wealthy ones not the lucky ones were able to flee, this is the opinion of some here.

Corbyn was invited to visit the Museum of Remembrance in Israel but he refused , claimed he was too busy. He found time to be present at the laying of a wreath in remembrance of terrorists but to be fair he doesn’t think he was involved !

Fennel your 'face the facts' post about Jewish deaths in WW2 is unpleasant in the extreme.

I think Corbyn and maybe others would do well to visit one of the death camps.

Yes, for once we agree lemongrove. I feel that many in executive positions in both main parties including Jeremy Corbyn could benefit from visiting the death camps.

The above persons should also contain Margaret Hodge, as that experience may bring it home to her that the investigation by the Labour party into her actions has absolutely no resemblance to what those men, women and children went through in awaiting the Nazi henchmen coming for them.

Corbyn and holocaust deniers

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/20/jeremy-corbyns-10-year-association-group-denies-holocaust/

I despair really, of all things political.

batty, don’t despair, among the dross are some good politicians, trouble is the dross will not allow them to speak , i an referring to the Labour Party ?

seriously....who do you think is genuine?

Ummm, Ben Bradshaw. Caroline Flint. Stephen Kinnock. Sarah Champion. Angela Eagle. Yvette Cooper. Mary Creagh

thanks, I will look into this .

I was me, not lemongrove who suggested it Grandad43.

And your remarks about Margaret Hodge are becoming more and more unpleasant and unacceptable. No doubt she knows a lot more than you do about the death camps, unless, of course, you lost relatives in them.

She said nothing whatsoever like that but it seems that what she has said has been misinterpreted. Fake news.

sorry lemongrove - you suggested it too. I missed that post.

Grandad, Margaret Hodge visited Auschwitz and talked about seeing a suitcase with the initials of her uncle, who died there. She was clear, she'd no idea if the suitcase belonged to her Uncle but said she found it chilling to see that. Many of her relatives were killed by the Nazis.
I'm sure none of this will change your views of her. Have you visited any of the camps or the memorials in Germany ?

Poland has always been less wealthy or economically successful than Germany. Jewish people were subjected to anti semitism in Poland before the Nazis arrived. After the war, some Jewish people who survived Auschwitz returned to Krakow, to be murdered by native Polish people.

Not misinterpreted Jalima, words chosen in a failed attempt to blacken her.

And, of course, we could go back to the Russian Anti-Jewish Pogroms too.

I thought everyone on GN would have an abhorrence of ethnic cleansing but perhaps I am wrong.

It is true in any war situation that the middle class / those with more easy access to money can often flee the conflict more easily than poorer folk. That is a simple fact.
I am totally against ethnic and cultural cleansing no matter who the victims are: Jews, Rohingya Muslims Palestinians & other minority groups that have been victimised and oppressed. I have been an active in campaigning for the humanitarian rights of people under threat for very many years.

PECS you're right of course, the more resources people have, the more resourceful they're likely to be able to be. I've three friends who were sent on the kinder transport from Vienna. They were fostered by families in the UK and went on to have successful careers in which they contributed significantly to the country that gave them shelter.
I agree, it doesn't matter where in the world those who have been victimised and oppressed are fleeing from, what matters is that they are given assistance in more stable, economically viable countries.