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The Last Days of Mrs May?

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trisher Wed 12-Sept-18 11:42:36

So 50 MPs met to discuss getting rid of her, should we be counting the days? Or will she simply stay because there's no other suitable candidate and no one wants a poisoned chalice?

Diana54 Thu 27-Sept-18 07:05:35

The extremists in a my political party are not brain dead, they are idealists who have completely unrealistic ideas of what can be achieved within a certain time or at a certain cost. The benefits of Brexit are being grossly exaggerated, any proposed advantages are largely emotional, economically there is a big downside.
If the Scots want independance, it's an emotional choice, there is no way they are going to benefit economically but of course emotions are high now, any economic consequences are in the future.
Extreme radical views equal chaos, those proposing them are only interested in power for themselves they don't care what happens to the bulk of the population and are willing to intimidate the population to retain power.
I have a very long list of despots from the 100 yrs but you all know who they are, to thrive a nation needs a moderate leader and I did not see anyone who matched that at the Labour Conference.

lemongrove Thu 27-Sept-18 08:46:14

‘Extreme radical views equal chaos’ ......how very true Diana

mostlyharmless Sat 29-Sept-18 09:18:29

Double disaster for May as poll finds 80% of Tory members think she should go before the next election while another reveals most investors do not think a Brexit deal will be done in time

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6219035/Poll-80-Tory-members-want-Theresa-gone-election.html

trisher Sat 29-Sept-18 09:27:39

Diana would you like to post any of what you consider to be Extreme radical views? Or is it just a term you picked up somewhere and are you actually referring to the socialist society established in 1945 which underpinned most of our formative years and which is now being steadily unpicked?

MaizieD Sat 29-Sept-18 09:44:04

What is wrong with 'extreme radical viewsl?

Abolition of slavery was an extreme radical view, universal suffrage was an extreme radical view, universal education was an extreme radical view. (Etc. Etc.)

Don't any of you know anything about social history?

Diana54 Sat 29-Sept-18 17:43:45

MaizeD you forgot Communism in USSR and China or maybe you view them as ideal societies, National Socialism, Venezuela today, USA under Trump, Cuba under Castro, Zimbabwe under Mugabe and a whole lot more extremists.

I well remember the 1970s when the unions ruled the country, when Scargill, McGahey, Robinson, Gormley and Jones brought the UK to its knees. I rate them as extremists and they probably did more damage to working communities than WW2. Thatcher was elected and utterly destroyed the unions, along with the mining, shipbuilding, steel and car industries, it was a foreseeable consequence of the misuse of power.

The Labour Party is now being run by left wing activists and the views expressed by the Closet Communists on the platform and the floor do not resonate with a lot of labour voters or even MPs, let alone win any more votes from the centre of the electorate.

lemongrove Sat 29-Sept-18 20:54:28

Spot on Diana54 but zealots within the LP have the deluded thoughts that the whole of the UK must think like they do.

trisher Sun 30-Sept-18 11:07:32

Once again Diana54 a lot of rhetoric but no details. What actually do you not want in the way of Labour party policies? Do you not want people to have access to water at a reasonable price and without filling the pockets of some people? Do you not know how Free schools and Academies have so skewed the spending on education that now we have money being wasted on schools that never open and most schools struggling with budgets? Do you not want to see a proper railway system where the profits are ploughed back into the system instead of into private pockets?
Are you in fact just scaremongering with silly threats?

Grandad1943 Sun 30-Sept-18 11:29:47

MaizieD how right you are on "radical views" in your post @ 9:44 this morning.

Many Tories in Parliament even opposed the introduction of the Health & Safety at Work Act as it passed through the House of Commons in 1973 calling it "extream legislation.

Since the above act was introduced, hundreds of thousands have returned home from their workplace in safety each day as workplace accidents have been reduced by eighty-six percent in the years since the act was introduced.

So much for extream views

Anniebach Sun 30-Sept-18 11:34:47

There was a Tory government in 1973

nigglynellie Sun 30-Sept-18 12:13:28

Annie, ??

Grandad1943 Sun 30-Sept-18 12:17:02

So, did I say there was not Anniebach?

It was Lord Robens (the man you so hate) who with others worked enormously hard so as to placate the opposition in the Conservative government parliamentary ranks that they decided to allow the bill to pass into law.

MaizieD Sun 30-Sept-18 12:22:30

Yes Annie. And MI5 kept a file on Harold Wilson, the dangerous left wing subversive...

Anniebach Sun 30-Sept-18 12:32:38

Ah yes Lord Robens, he who lied at the Aberfan disaster enquiry into the deaths of 144 people, 118 were children , Lord Robens who was kept in his job by the unions and was appointed to head the committee of enquiry into the the health and safety act .

Well I and the world say Aberfan disaster, not ‘an event’ as grandad1943 chose to call it.

Three cheers for the union supported Lord Robens . Responsible for the sucide of some members of the miners union who lost children in the disaster and were betrayed by the unions.

lemongrove Sun 30-Sept-18 12:36:19

MI5 keep files on all sorts of people.Left wing politicians probably all had files on them, particularly in Wilson’s time with the Cold War.So many spies ( traitors) came up from the 1930’s onwards sympathetic to the Russian cause.

Grandad1943 Sun 30-Sept-18 12:37:17

Actually maizeD the situation with the HSAWA was much more complex than I explained above due to the party majority situation in parliament.

By the time that the act actually became law Harold Wilson was leading a minority Labour Government in 1974.

However, I was trying to stay away from all that and keep it simple....should have known better.

Anniebach Sun 30-Sept-18 12:37:59

Pity Lord Robens hadn’t worked harder and prevented the disaster . He died aged 89, most of the children did live past the age of 9

With respect Lord Robens was a bastard

lemongrove Sun 30-Sept-18 12:38:08

Come to that, Corbyn seems sympathetic to Russia too, and probably has a very fat file on him somewhere in MI5.

trisher Sun 30-Sept-18 12:38:15

How many lives do you think the health and Safety act has saved since it was passed Annie? Perhaps there are some who owe their lives to Lord Robens as well.

Anniebach Sun 30-Sept-18 12:41:07

It was brought to the house by the conservative Secretary of State for employment in January 1974

Anniebach Sun 30-Sept-18 12:47:09

so Trisher forget 144 children buried alive and only praise what followed, shame on you, I wonder if you would so detached and so eager to support grandsd1943 in his praise if you had watched parents and grandparents digging for the little bodies, I did..and stood in the chapel as fathers came in to identify their children. And heard the cries of parents at the enquiry when Robens lied.

OldMeg Sun 30-Sept-18 13:01:07

What a dreadful thing to say Annie ...that is sinking low. We all know the anguish of Aberfan. You cannot say that or you are using the pain of the dreadful day just to make polical propaganda.

I’m shocked.

Anniebach Sun 30-Sept-18 13:08:03

I will say the same every time Robens is involved in any post.

When the Grenfell enquiry is held I assume there will be no mention of the grief ? That would be using it to make a political agenda ?

OldMeg Sun 30-Sept-18 13:10:29

Disgraceful.

Anniebach Sun 30-Sept-18 13:12:24

Why disgraceful, you have accused me of doing so,