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The Last Days of Mrs May?

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trisher Wed 12-Sept-18 11:42:36

So 50 MPs met to discuss getting rid of her, should we be counting the days? Or will she simply stay because there's no other suitable candidate and no one wants a poisoned chalice?

MaizieD Tue 02-Oct-18 10:42:36

I feel it's about time her party, H of P and the country should get behind her.

I'm afraid that democracy doesn't work like that, GG. What you describe is more like a totalitarian state.

Tories vote share in the 2017 was 42%. Which means that more than half of the electorate didn't vote for them (58%). In a democracy that 58% are entitled to oppose the government; there is absolutely no obligation on them to 'get behind' it at all.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Oct-18 11:00:47

MaizieD she was elected, the Conservatives won the election admittedly with a decreased majority. You do not know the political opinions of those who chose not to vote in the election.

We are in unprecedented political times, unless the H of P stop all the backbiting and childish actions (both sides of the house), we will not get anywhere with the negotiations with Tusk, Juncker et al!!!

Just for the record, the UK is not a totalitarian state!!!

MaizieD Tue 02-Oct-18 11:29:59

The figures I quoted, GG were of people who voted. those who didn't may be presumed to be apathetic.

I'm not contesting the fact that May was elected but I'll remind you that she only remained in power by bribing the DUP. ~A party which does not represent the views of the Northern Irish as far as Brexit is concerned.

I didn't say that the UK is a totalitarian state. I merely said that that was what you seemed to be describing (and wanting?)

We won't get anywhere in negotiations because the UK is demanding the impossible.

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 11:48:28

Northern Ireland voted 53.8% remain 44.2% leave

How come the remain wishes are important in N.I. But the

leave wishes not important in England and Wales

jura2 Tue 02-Oct-18 11:54:55

You can't force NI to unite with the Republic if they don't want to - simple as that.

As said on another thread, the Irish border will probably be the last straw that breaks the very sick camels back - 'how long will it be until Brexit collapses under its own impossibility'.

jura2 Tue 02-Oct-18 11:57:06

If you think that woud be acceptable, then it would be just as acceptable to agree to the Falklands join Argentina, or Gibraltar, Spain.

oldbatty Tue 02-Oct-18 12:04:31

Those 2 ideas seem to make perfect sense.

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 12:12:17

The people of the Falklands want to remain British

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 14:52:23

Yes, they do, as do the people of Northern Ireland.

yggdrasil Tue 02-Oct-18 15:07:41

GrannyGravy: TM was elected democratically as our PM and during this difficult time, I feel it's about time her party, H of P and the country should get behind her.

TM was elected by the Parliamentary Conservative Party to replace David Cameron. That is a pretty small electorate to call democratic. JC on the other hand was elected by the whole Labour membership.

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 15:10:54

.....and I do hope that they understood they would get a Marxist government if ever he got into power!

yggdrasil Tue 02-Oct-18 15:14:30

They (and I) understand we will get a social democratic government, as per J Maynard Keynes. Which is not Marxist except by the standards of the Mail and the Sun.

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 15:19:36

Well.....if it ever happens ( surely UK voters will have more sense) then I wish you much joy of it.

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 15:22:20

If Leadsom had not withdrawn from the Tory leadership contest the vote woul have gone to party members

Bagatelle Tue 02-Oct-18 15:54:44

Bearing in mind that...
- only 37% of the electorate voted to leave, and
- that was on a sliding scale between those who absolutely definitely wanted us to leave and those who wavered right up until the last minute, and also that
- it was generally older people who wanted us to leave and younger ones who wanted us to remain (so that's changed the demographics a bit during the last two years)
... then whoever was Prime Minister of whichever political party was going to satisfy only a small percentage of The People.

trisher Tue 02-Oct-18 16:01:32

lemon once again accusations with no substance, would you like to post some Labour Party policies which you consider Marxist? No of course you wouldn't because there aren't any.

jura2 Tue 02-Oct-18 16:09:41

... on the other hand- fascists ones come to mind from t'other side ...

Again, what a Hobson's choice sad

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 16:17:51

trisher, you refuse to accept for some any policies put forward by Marxists cannot be trusted . And it’s not just policies it’s what else could/would they bring in ,

trisher Tue 02-Oct-18 16:30:51

We live in Parliamentry democracy Annie all this scaremongering is pathetic, what do you imagine is going to happen? A revoluion with the royal family locked in the tower, all the aristos sent to the block and the red Army marching down the Mall? Too much imagination!

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 17:45:28

No, just ruining our economy, privatising rail and all utilities, giving students a free uni education and going after business so that they just about give up.Everything State controlled.Borrowing to do all this and totally buggering up the economy.
Given the huge population here now, you cannot give all things to all men.He isn’t bright enough to lead, but McDonnell and Milne ( a Communist) are and this is what they will do.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Oct-18 18:01:18

lemon ?????????

oldbatty Tue 02-Oct-18 19:17:06

aw that's so cute....almost like a little club where the members all applaud each other.

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 19:26:13

trisher, you seemed to have a very vivid imagination

jura2 Tue 02-Oct-18 19:58:06

Have you ever read 'the Queen and I' by Sue Townsend Trisher ;)

varian Wed 03-Oct-18 22:36:14

A little ray of sunshine from TM's speech-

Brexit could still be stopped if warring Tories don’t stop fighting over the withdrawal plan, Theresa May has said for the first time.

“If we all go off in different directions, in pursuit of our own visions of the perfect Brexit, we risk ending up with no Brexit at all,” she told the party conference.

The warning came after the latest bout of Conservative infighting, which saw Boris Johnson pack out a fringe meeting as he again demanded the prime minister “chuck Chequers”.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-stopped-theresa-may-conservative-conference-boris-johnson-labour-second-referendum-peoples-a8566836.html

Please, Mrs May, can you spell out what has to happen for brexit to be stopped????