The Last Days of Mrs May?

It's pretty clear what has to happen to stop Brexit, TMs Brexit plan has got to be rejected by a relatively small number of Tories.
Now that she has reaffirmed that she is staying in power, there will be no leadership challenge, no GE, so it will be up to a majority in parliament to decide. Labour has stated that with no GE they would back a second vote and most likely that will happen.

Massive uncertainty, will a second vote change the decision?, we are really no further forward than 2 years ago.

I can't see a good outcome either way. It's too late.

I can't, either. and since reading this I've become steadily more depressed!

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As Home Secretary, Theresa May stopped security services probing Arron Banks in run-up to Brexit referendum - as ex-Culture Secretary says PM 'has serious questions to answer'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6344611/Theresa-stepped-stop-security-services-probing-Arron-Banks-run-Brexit-referendum.html

Only now, when time is running out, are his nefarious dealings being properly investigated. Why so late????

The Daily Mail reported on Thursday that May declined a request by one of the security services to investigate Banks in 2016, repeating a claim made by Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, at his party conference in September.
of Man firm at centre of claims against Arron Banks

At the time Watson asked: “Did [May] ask the security services to investigate? Or did she stop them doing so? There is a suggestion that in the run-up to the referendum the prime minister – in her capacity at the time as home secretary – declined at least one application from the security services to mount a full investigation into Mr Banks and others suspected of Russian influence. We need to know if that is true.”

The Electoral Commission concluded that Banks was not the true source of the £8m in funds provided to the Leave.EU referendum campaigns; that the funding involved a non-qualifying or impermissible company – Rock Holdings Ltd – based in the Isle of Man; and that Banks, Bilney and others concealed the true details of the financial transactions.

Banks has been invited to appear on the BBC’s The Andrew Marr Show this weekend, where he is expected to respond again to the allegations. He told the Times he had obtained a legal opinion, which he would refer to on air, to show that lending money via Rock Holdings was legitimate.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/02/theresa-may-arron-banks-leave-eu-campaign-investigation

It's not that often we get such similar reports in the Daily Mail and the Guardian. Is this a reflection of the views of the new DM editor? Tomorrow's Andrew Marr Show could be worth watching.

Why don't we wait until the investigation has taken place and the findings are known before we start throwing around accusations.

We should ask why it has taken more than two years to start this investigation.

It may now take so long that brexit could actually happen before the criminal conspiracy that facilitated it was proven in court.

MPs across the political spectrum have called for Brexit to be postponed following the latest allegations surrounding prominent Leave donor Arron Banks.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/politicals-call-for-brexit-to-be-halted-following-arron-banks-revelations-1-5761349

Banks supported Farage a secondary Brexit campaign. It's ridiculous and IMO rather desperate for anyone to suggest that Brexit be postponed, because an investigation is about to take place and no one knows what the outcome will be.

Banks spent at least £8million on his campaign and appears to have broken many rules. No-one is satisfied that the money did not come from foreign sources, who certainly do not have the best interests of the UK at heart.

You may not think that you were influenced by the lying leavers campaign but there is absolutely no doubt that many were. There are still people who persist in believing the lie on the bus despite it being comprehensively discredited. No-one spends such huge sums on advertising or manipulating social media unless it works.

Of course, if it is proved, the referendum should be declared null and void. It was fraudulent and won by lies.

When cheats won Olympic medals by taking drugs which were prohibited, their win was cancelled and other honest competitors were awarded the medals.

Oh I see, so it's your belief that all who campaigned for us to remain in the EU were totally honest and above reproach varian.

There would have been aspects of the leave campaign that influenced my decision, and I'm sure there were aspects of the remain campaign that influenced yours. I don't know why you feel the need to portray all who voted leave as gullible enough to only have been influenced by lies.

Who are all these people who still persist in believing the lie on the bus? Do you know them personally? Has there been a survey carried out to specifically address this issue?

The referendum wasn't won by lies it was won because more than 17 million voted to leave and IMO the only reason you want it to be declared null and void, is because you wanted to remain.

Has there been a survey carried out to specifically address this issue?

Er... yes, there has:

Nearly half of the British public still believe the false claim from the Brexit referendum that the UK sends £350m a week to the EU, despite persistent attempts to debunk the myth.

A new study by King’s College London of attitudes to Brexit found that 42 per cent of people who had heard of the claim still believe it is true, while just 36 per cent thought it was false and 22 per cent were unsure.

The research, conducted with the help of pollster Ipsos MORI, shows that sustained criticism of the false claim by the UK Statistics Authority and others has had little effect, with perceptions mostly unchanged since before the referendum.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vote-leave-brexit-lies-eu-pay-money-remain-poll-boris-johnson-a8603646.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Thanks for that Mazie.

Theresa May is coming under increasing pressure to publish the government's legal advice on a possible Brexit deal.

The prime minister is facing calls to make public the guidance given to her by Attorney General Geoffrey Cox QC on potential post-Brexit arrangements for Northern Ireland.

As Mrs May works to achieve a breakthrough in negotiations with the EU - currently still deadlocked on the Irish border issue - a growing number of MPs are demanding to see the legal assessment of any agreement before parliament votes on it.

Sky News understands Environment Secretary Michael Gove, a leading Brexiteer, is among those wanting to view Mr Cox's advice in full before agreeing to a deal.

news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-facing-growing-calls-to-publish-legal-advice-on-brexit-deal-11547199

Surely a responsible PM would have obtained legal advice regarding the Irish Border issue, and published it so that its implications could be understood by everyone BEFORE triggering Article 50????

I'm beginning to wonder (hope?) that all this is pandering to the public and readers of media to stretch out the tension. And sell papers etc.
Meanwhile there's some sort of deal already on the cards.
I'm probably hopelessly naive.

Senior Cabinet members have revealed they had longstanding concerns over Theresa May's Brexit strategy, with ministers warning her proposals are "worrying, concerning and disappointing."

Sajid Javid, the Home Secretary, Gavin Williamson, the Defence Secretary and Liam Fox, the Trade Secretary, all criticised Mrs May’s Chequers proposal when she set it out in July, it has emerged.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/12/brexit-latest-senior-cabinet-members-brand-pms-plan-worrying/

I wonder what would happen to Brexit if we went into a recession in the next few weeks ?

May has been out of her depth as Home Sec and hopelessly so as PM as is made obvious now, and it is time the 48 letters went in.
She will go down as the worst PM this country has ever had.

Yes let's hope its the Last Days of Mrs May, I can only hope so.

It becomes clearer and clearer by the day, that NO Deal was the aim right from the start- and that the whole show about trying to get a deal was just a charade, a pretence.

There is NO middle deal possible- it is either a NO DEAL, or remain. Cake and Eat it will never ever be on the table- and quite rightly so. Unless we go for a Norway/Swiss style deal, which will entail free movement, payments to EU, and following all rules and regs, and not take part in decisions.

If it's to be a no deal, why wait till March 2019!!

stree not whilst there’s Cameron to compare her with she won’t

Who do we have in her place ?

Exactly EV the damn men created this mess and then all ran away.

The men TM has appointed like David Davis and Boris Johnson proved to be useless and ran away, and her choice of replacements is no better-

Dominic Raab has come under fire for saying he "hadn't quite understood" how reliant UK trade in goods is on the Dover-Calais crossing.

The Brexit Secretary's remarks came at a technology conference as he discussed the "bespoke arrangement" the UK sought with the EU after it leaves the bloc.

Shadow Brexit minister Jenny Chapman suggested Mr Raab "doesn't even understand the very basics of Brexit".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46142188

"Theresa May's Brexit Deal Is "Dead", According To Her New Northern Ireland Minister"

www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/northern-ireland-minister-brexit-deal-dead