Jacob Rees Mogg

I’m afraid I spent a decade in the Conservative youth wing, Annie, and I certainly did meet them. The word “peasants” was thrown about a lot. It was also used at my school to refer to people who were state educated.

I would like to think that Cameron’s attempt to clean out the worst of the youth wing was successful, but I know from younger friends it was not.

Realy muffin, I have never heard it said around here.

Just because you've never heard it doesn't mean to say it doesn't happen Annie.

True Maizie, and I am waiting for varian to post a link stating JRM calls people that.

It won't come, annie. JRM is no a chump whatever else he is. Only a chump would show a blatantly "sneering sense of entitlement". Any sneering is coming from the other direction.

I agree Baggs but think it is so sad to see the country as peasants and the wealthy, I just don’t see it like that. I really don’t care who has wealth.

I don't think we ever referred to a 'peasant class' in Britain as most of the world did, at least I remember being shocked at school learning about China and Russia and their 'peasants' openly referred to. Unpleasant posh people I have known have referred to the lower orders as 'plebs' but I've never heard anyone called a peasant, I must admit.

Oh, Is 'plebs' better than 'peasants' then?

Never heard either

You've clearly led a very sheltered life, Annie.

No Maizie, not at all, just know very nice people, from titled to Army to Farmers to Builders to Unemployed . I have never spent time wondering what they all say in private, only words I will not tolerate are ‘f’ and ‘c’ and blasphemy.

Not concerned about the rest. I think it a pity to assume some people use derogatory terms, those people may be kind and polite .

I think most of us have heard "plebs" or "scum" or the great unwashed from those who think they're better than folk who work harder for less cash.I know I have and I know I always end up walking away from these folk who were once friends.

Only friends because they think you're on the same financial or educational level as them,can afford the same stuff etc etc
.In fact I hear the great unwashed a lot from unionists who believe that nationalists are all uneductaed benefit scroungers.I love to educate them with tales of my council house background in one of the most notorious housing schemes north of Glasgow ,my years of living on toasted cheese while we built our business. Our successsful 40+ years running multiple businesses. Not ashamed of where I came from and as far as I'm concerend NOBODY is better than me or mine...regardless of their money or Eton education.
No envy here ,just cant stand folk who believe having more than most makes them better or entitled to tell the rest of us how we should live our lives ..

\Beau Lower orders? Really?

I can't respect a man who says people who went to state schools are 'as thick as potted plants'.

Neither can I, elrel. It's a ridiculous and nasty thing to say. And JRM didn't say that. What you've claimed he said is some people's skewed and prejudiced interpretation of what he said, which is not the same thing.

Annie^JRM conducts himself with dignity, he doesn’t publicly use foul language as does John McDonald. Doesn’t hide behind a glass door shouting ‘stop harassing me^.

How dignified is it to deliberately bring your children out into the street to witness someone who is demonsrating outside your home? Surely keeping them safely inside would be better (but not so headline grabbing of course.)

After the attack on their home possibly he wanted his children to see the type of person who would be so aggressive. I don’t know, but calling fellow MP’s f*****g losers on a stage in the O2 and on live tv cannot be excused, even though you try to trisher.

If you are not shocked at Mogg's words, take a look at his voting record- it tells us all we need to know about his total lack of compassion

Just think his 6 children will be brought up with similar values and prejudices.

As others children will be brought up with their attitudes and prejudices trisher .

I haven't noticed any prejudices in JRM. He seems to have fairly standard Conservative political views such as in "funding better public services from the proceeds of growth rather than expropriation" and he seems to be rich. How do these things make him prejudiced?

If JRM is prejudiced then you have to accept that his opposite numbers in other political parties are prejudiced by the same token. At which point it becomes ridiculous and so such a silly idea has to be abandoned.

Having different beliefs and views from other people is not a sign of prejudice; it's a sign of having a different perspective on life.

You could say that Jeremy Corbyn is "prejudiced" because he is in favour of expropriation to fund public services.

In my view neither of them is prejudiced in this respect. They just have different political views.

Well said Baggs

Without the details of what exactly was being voted on, i.e. what change(s) in the law, I don't think that voting list shows a lack of compassion. It might well show a very right wing approach to the issues mentioned but if the voter making those votes against (or for, depending what it's about) is voting with their conscience and their convictions of what is good for society in the long run or as a whole, then they aren't doing it out of a lack of compassion.

This focus on lack of compassion, prejudices, and so forth seems to me to be only indicative of people who can't or won't tolerate a broad range of ideas, and who seem to think that someone who holds opposing plitical views to them is necessarily evil. It's a very simplistic and immature attitude.

What does it matter what the JRMs of the UK think about gay rights, or how they vote on such subjects? The majority think otherwise and vote accordingly. Except to the JRMs their convictions on such matters are, essentially, irrelevant. They can be ignored.