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Jacob Rees Mogg

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oldbatty Wed 12-Sept-18 13:43:48

I don't think it was fair to target his children but they don't really seem like ordinary folk do they?

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Oct-18 14:51:52

As for the comments about 'plebs' or 'peasants' - none of which I believe he has said, nor did he say ^ people who went to state schools are 'as thick as potted plants'^ these are how prejudices against certain politicians begin.

As far as not knowing how 'ordinary people' live - I understand that he is an extremely good constituency MP, concerned about his constituents' problems and tries to help them.

Being a staunch RC may influence some of his voting too - but, of course, the fact that he is Catholic may prejudice some people against him.

I am not a particular fan of his, btw, nor of Corbyn and McDonnell, as all are too extreme for my taste, but I do not believe that any politician is totally good or bad.

POGS Thu 04-Oct-18 17:45:10

Maizie d

"That nasty Mr Bone has got to be in the wrong because he shouts and rants and loses his self control while that nice Mr Rees Mogg does all he can to calm the situation. "
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That nasty Mr Bone was in the wrong because he was an adult who should know better than aim his class warfare diatribe at young children!

I bet if Mr Bone had spoken to another MP and his/her children from any party that was not Tory he would be called what he is ' a nasty person' by those he seem to see him as some sort of class warrior, a fellow traveller. Maybe I am mistaken and this sort of behaviour is quite normal, rational even to some!

Bone and his apologists are cementing the point that keeps being made about the rise of open ' Nasty Politics'
we are witnessing over the past 2/3 years being an acceptable activity and politicians are ' fair game' and their families too.

It is one thing to criticize an MP of any colour but to harass their family in the way Jacob Rees Moggs family have been subjected to most certainly no ' fair game'!

Anniebach Thu 04-Oct-18 18:04:09

As the OP said, they don’t really seem like ordinary people, children ?

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Oct-18 18:50:02

Anniebach grin

Ilovecheese Thu 04-Oct-18 19:58:35

I also think he is a very good manipulator, he knows that his good manners impress, and that all he has to do is keep his temper and he will win support. I think he deliberately adopts his old fashioned image, in order to make himself noticable, not just another back bencher.

I don't think anyone has supported the actions of this Ian Bone, but JRM keeping his children in the doorway was unpleasant and unkind.

Ilovecheese Thu 04-Oct-18 20:05:00

There seems to be an assumption that if a person who is disliked happens to be rich, then those that dislike them are somehow envious or an inverted snob.

This assumption appears to me to be a ploy to discredit the views of a poster with a different opinion

trisher Thu 04-Oct-18 20:26:34

Baggs do you really think What does it matter what the JRMs of the UK think about gay rights, or how they vote on such subjects?
Do you not think that such beliefs feed into the prejudice and thoughts of extremists and that the fact that gay people are still physically and verbally abused is partly due to people like JRM who make unacceptable prejudice seem harmless. And that by dismissing such opinions as harmless you are saying gay preudice is acceptable. Could you imagine making the same comments about racist opinions?

Anniebach Thu 04-Oct-18 20:51:48

So people must forfeit their faith ? May seem unacceptable to atheists not to people whose faith guides them

trisher Thu 04-Oct-18 20:58:58

Your prejudices are your prejudices Annie whatever their source. Faith has over the years been used to justify many things including the domination of women and the persecution of Jews. Neither of which are now acceptable and neither is gay bashing.

Anniebach Thu 04-Oct-18 21:21:00

Gay bashing? What rubbish . You believe thugs who attack gays are people of faith?

Bridgeit Thu 04-Oct-18 21:47:26

Sadly they can be Annibach,but not of a true Christian faith.

lemongrove Thu 04-Oct-18 21:54:25

This class hatred is unpleasant.Somehow it’s fine to howl at MP’s and make fun of them if they are perceived to be upper class but can you imagine the outrage if upper class protesters howled at perceived lower class MP’s.
If some rich oik camped outside their door and yelled at their children about how awful their Father was.
Think about it!

Bridgeit Thu 04-Oct-18 22:02:27

Absolutely agree Lemongrove, sadly ‘twas always thus ‘

Anniebach Thu 04-Oct-18 22:06:04

It’s more than unpleasant, it’s nasty. We have a new nasty party

MaizieD Thu 04-Oct-18 22:27:42

This class hatred is unpleasant.Somehow it’s fine to howl at MP’s and make fun of them if they are perceived to be upper class but can you imagine the outrage if upper class protesters howled at perceived lower class MP’s.

The 'class hatred' is a complete figment of your imagination, lemon.

Anniebach Thu 04-Oct-18 22:30:56

Wrong Maizie , it can be found in posts every day .

lemongrove Thu 04-Oct-18 22:31:40

Tell that to the delightful Ian Bone Maizie and perhaps anyone else for whom the cap fits.

MaizieD Thu 04-Oct-18 22:49:11

Rubbish, lemon. I've read nothing from either side of the political divide on here that suggests 'class envy'.

If you don't agree perhaps you'd like to post some examples?

jura2 Thu 04-Oct-18 23:26:20

Yes please.

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Oct-18 23:29:51

grin

POGS Fri 05-Oct-18 01:34:06

It isn't so much ' Class Envy as ' Class Hatred'.

MaizieD Fri 05-Oct-18 08:22:56

It's neither class envy nor class hatred, POGS.

I thought better of you than to join in at the level of making unfounded accusations.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 08:36:38

Oh, the outraged innocence! grin
Just scroll back and read all the comments on this thread.
Sometimes other threads too....jura wasn’t it you who made the comment plums in their mouths what is that but class hatred?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 05-Oct-18 08:57:45

I feel that if a poster owns up to being "financially comfortable" they are immediately "picked on" for being - alright jack, uncaring /empathetic to people who have less.

I am not sure if this is because of class hatred or just envy.

Anniebach Fri 05-Oct-18 09:01:33

Which ever GrannyGravy, it’s vicious