Peoples' Vote March Saturday 20th October

Brexit of any sort would no doubt damage the othre EU countries but would damage the UK far more.

A "no-deal" brexit could be even mere damaging for our European neighbours but utterly catastrophic for us.

Are we really trying to "cut off our nose to spite our face"?

No varian we are not "trying to cut off our nose to spite our face" we are trying, despite the intransigent of the EU to get the best for our country once we leave the EU.

We are trying to honour the result of the referendum in the best way possible; well at least some of us are.

smileless you seem to represent a small section of leavers that think like you, but many do not. Which lot will win out, if any? You are only a small minority of the British people.

Theresa May does not seem to be able to get her cabinet to support her, let alone the Conservative party, let alone the House of Commons, let alone the people.

How do you know who I represent varian? How do you know only a small section of leavers think the way I do and many do not?

What you most certainly don't know is that there are those who were once remainers who think as I do. Who if there were to be a 'peoples vote' would vote to ensure that we do Brexit whether there's a deal, a bad deal or no deal at all.

I represent myself.

If you believe that more Remainers now support leaving than Leaver who now support remaining, why do the leavers oppose a Peoples' Vote when the terms of "the deal" are known?

Richard Pendry is paid to go to the world's most dangerous places and carry out a risk assessment. This is what happened when he carried out a risk assessment on Brexit.

Richard voted for Leave in the EU Referendum in 2016 as a protest vote - he wanted the government to take notice of him and the other disenfranchised people out there.

After the vote, he began to get frustrated as the key players resigned - David Cameron, George Osborne, Nigel Farage - so decided to use his professional skills to look at the potential risks of Brexit.

He's now a campaigner for the People's Vote.

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/military-risk-manager-risk-assessment-on-brexit/

It's been said over and over again varian. It would be wrong to have a peoples' vote because the only aim is to overturn the referendum result and stay in the EU.

Can you in all honesty tell me that you'd have supported a peoples' vote if the result of the referendum had been to remain and it was Brexiters calling for another vote?

No, of course not. Remaining in the EU is the best future for our country,.

Justine Greening has said she believes other senior Conservative MPs also support the idea of a second referendum to end a likely parliamentary deadlock on Brexit, after she became the most high-profile Tory to endorse such a move.

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The former education secretary and remain supporter said Theresa May’s Chequers plan “in practice suits no one” and would be rejected by both remainers and leavers. A new referendum would provide “a route forwards”, she said.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/16/back-second-brexit-vote-says-conservative-mp-justine-greening

Justine Greening points to the fact that many who voted leave thought we could be like Switzerland or Norway, which was not that bad but the idea of a "no-deal" crash-out would be utterly horrifying to them,. or indeed to most Britons if the consequences were spelled out.

No, of course not because you would have got the result you believe was best for the country. Supporters of Brexit have the result they believe to be in the best interests of the country.

So tell me varian if you wouldn't have supported a peoples' vote had the referendum result been to remain, why should we?

What is the best result for the country? Two years on and we still haven’t got any sort of plan that is acceptable to all the different factions. We still haven’t a scooby doo what sort of dogs breakfast we are going to be served up. If this is. the best they can do then God help us.

The best result IMO would have been for all political parties to work together for the good of the country crystaltipps. Unfortunately this has not been the case and may well have contributed to the EU's belief that divide and conquer always works.

If this country is sufficiently divided, the result of the referendum will be overturned and we will remain which is what the EU's wanted all along. They want our money and they want to use us as a deterrent to any other member who may wish to leave.

They may be right, I can only hope that they're not.

For the good of the country we should revoke Article 50, apologise to our EU partners for the horrible hassle and expense and ask to remain in the Union.

I hope that's a joke varian.

Not at all. It is what makes sense to those of us who care about the United Kingdom,

Senseless, you should reconsider now that you are aware of some of the dreadful consequences, as highlighted by experts in so many fields.

Because it makes sense. For the NHS, for the patients, for the Good Friday agreement, for transport, for the environment, for .......... the list is endless.

But you would rather people suffer, you would rathr scupper the country - for your pride, and your chosen ignorance f the facts.

We will fight for a second vote - whether you like it or not. And we hope people will see sense this time, with the knowledge they have acquired in the meantime, if they are at all prepared to look at it. And it is clear some just refuse to even look.

Is your surname Junker or Barnier Varian ?

Stop being so rude - although Barnier is a very intelligent and extremely calm and patient man - how he does it when faced with Davies and now Raab- is just admirable.

jura you do enjoy your bit of melodrama.

Yes, those noble EU negotiators, how do they do it?
You are really taking the P now.

The Brextremists have gone too far this time. People of all parties and backgrounds who care about the UK need to protest

www.independent.co.uk/voices/gina-miller-final-say-peoples-vote-march-for-the-future-a8585211.html

Fight away jura and before you accuse lemongrove or any other poster of being rude, look to yourself. As I said, people in glass houses.

Oh yes, Gina Miller.....

The best result IMO would have been for all political parties to work together for the good of the country

That would not have had the slightest effect on the fact that, by any assessment on the effect of Leaving on the country, even the UK government's assessment of the effect of Leaving, the UK will be poorer for leaving the EU.

I struggle to understand why leaving an organisation, in which we were a key player and which has not inflicted any harm on the UK, in order to become poorer, will have any benefits at all.

You probably haven't been told the truth about how Brexit will affect our creative industries. Jacob Rees-Mogg certainly hasn't

www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-jacob-rees-mogg-howard-goodall-scary-truth-musicians-video-games-berlin-relocate-soft-power-a8586026.html

We are not a key player in the EU, we just happen to be the third biggest economy.