Police knocking criminals off mopeds

I suppose however that turning them into ‘roadkill’ would be regarded as appropriate given how you see them.

Not feral then, just charming young men who like to go about politely relieving others of their property whilst waving a samurai sword, a machete or acid around.
"Excuse me, would you mind handing over your expensive mobile, I won't stab you if you don't struggle and I'll just quietly ride off on my stolen moped. Thanks so much".

That sounds a bit more cultivated, doesn't it.
Bless
(to use your patronising term maryeliza)

I suppose however that turning them into ‘roadkill’ would be regarded as appropriate given how you see them.
Don't be ridiculous.

I think you sometimes post rubbish in order to wind up other posters.
Over and Out.

No. I think posters using and defending the use of the word feral is rubbish and ridiculous. And how pathetically ridiculous is your tactic ( so common on GN) of setting up a false dichotomy to try and win an argument that can’t be won or even addressed by logic and reason.

Thankyou Maryeliza, it is heartbreaking that this vicious cycle goes on & on .

How bloody dare you sanctimonious posters call them ‘feral’. You. Have. No. Idea.

Do not be so presumptuous as to tell others that they have no idea maryeliza.

You have no idea what others have experience of.
Perhaps a bit more than reading social work files.

As I said, to start any rehabilitation, first they have to be caught.

Any suggestions?

I thought you’d ‘over and outed’. Jal. I still say that anyone who dehumanises ( not who criticises) young people like this has no idea because they haven’t. You can be as critical and hard hitting as you want ( general you) without resorting to to using words like that.

I haven’t even said that I don’t think the tactic should be used - perhaps you could point out where I did? There is a huge conceptual difference between dehumanising people and apprehending them. The latter can actually be done without the former - or is that too hard to grasp conceptually?

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Often they are caught, go through a system they are well use to, come out into the same situation, some will change, but many do not have the where with all to do so, or are have no choice in being returned to the same situation . As for answers sadly ,it seems life is & will be forever be unequal & unfair, but we must just try to do as much as we can to strive to make things better. Better rehab, better backup, moving areas could save some but it’s a human problem that we cannot entirely irradicate. ?

Clearly lost the argument then Jal you haven’t found my post have you because it doesn’t exist and FYI this isn’t. Australia and no poster using the term on here was being remotely affectionate.

have no choice in being returned to the same situation
That is the problem Bridgeit; it is a cycle which sometimes cannot be broken despite attempts at rehabilitation. They return home to the same situation.

So much potential , sadly going in the wrong direction.
I do sometimes wonder if it would be better to do 2yrs or so in the forces, but many would still have to return to the same situations .

I wonder too, sometimes about National Service; and years ago YOIs offered good education, training and a change from the chaos of some young lives. However, that occasionally meant a young person re-offending because life was better in there than their dreadful home life. How sad was that.
I think they have got worse since then, by some reports.

Yes Jalima, I think you are right & sadly this is still the case for too many young people.

The gang becomes their 'family'.

I certainly wouldn't like any of these miscreants living next door to me, perhaps the do-gooders would like to have their say on that suggestion or is it a case of " not in my backyard ?" Thought so.

I will have to stop using the term feral - at least until I go back to Australia!

I am all for rehabilitating these young people, but after they have served their sentence and been taught the consequences of their behaviour.

Jalima
You would be safe to use the term in my house and my daughters. We have a feral child in the family

I have never intended to “dehumanise” these people. They by their own actions “dehumanise” themselves.

No decent human being would be involved in the actions that they participate in.

Hee Hee Petra I gave 3 “feral nephews” all under the age of 8.

There is as with everything the ‘do gooders’ Who can be unrealistic, but aspirational, then you have the extreme opposite who believe these worthless humans she be done away with for good, & then we have the realist who try to carve a middle way with some success.
And let’s not forget we are all a product of our circumstances, there but for the grace of God go I. Etc etc Amen !

Bridgeit I like to think that they are not “worthless” , but they do need harsh prison sentences. Education is available in our prisons, it should be compulsory not optional.

A good example of education and experience in our prisons- google - “giggly pig”