Labour official blames all world wars on Jews.

knickas63. Would you explain how admiring a vile anti semetic wall mural in this country is anti Israel and not anti semetic ?

Can somebody who believes Corbyn is not anti_semetic explain why Corbyn calls Hezbollah and Hammas ' friends'? Both groups want the annihilation of all Jewish people do they not. They aren't too bothered about us in the West.

When did it become normal / acceptable for a possible future UK Prime Minister and his cohorts to call Terrorist Organisations 'Friends' and so many of his actions, which are clearly bordering anti- semetism, be seen as the face of the Labour Party?

How can a possible future UK Prime Minister call the likes of Hammas and Hezbollah ' friends' when they are on Terrorist Black Lists both recognised as such by the UK government and others such as the European Union?

On the 26th of July 2017 the European Court of Justice concluded and made a subsequent judgement on Hamas and declared ' the continuation for Hamas to remain on its ' terrorism blacklist ':-

www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/eu-court-upholds-hamas-terror-listing/

It amazes me the words of even Labour Party MP's, are so easily dismissed by Corbyn supporters.

As for Corbyn/McDonnell and their Communist/Marxist credentials why the denial again by his supporters?

If McDonnell states he is a Marxist why not believe him? He does not hide the fact and is presumably proud of his belief in Marxist doctrine and financial policies so why do his supporters feel it necessary to deny what he stands for. Why back him if you cannot believe in his aims and goals.

Corbyn and McDonnell et al, are well known for their political stance whether it be telling us we should Aspire to be like Venezuela, writing for the Morning Star, bringing Maos ' Little Red Book' into the UK Parliament as a doctrine the UK could learn from, the list goes on and on.

If Corbyn and McDonnel are not ashamed of their known political views why the hell is there always a cabal of faithful supporters who ironically challenge those who point it out.

Well said POGS. But the denials will continue

I do not condone any of the nonsense about Jews causing WW2 etc or any discrimination against any person because of their faith or race. I feel cross I have to state that because I support Palestine's cause.

POGS If we are friends of Israel do we then support the annihilation of all Palestinians? There is plenty of recorded evidence of elected Israeli politicians who openly call for that. it is evident that Israel is determined not to return illegally taken Palestinian land and is changing laws to make life for not Jews more difficult within Israel. Is that OK?

However Israeli governments HAVE played a part in the political situation in the middle east as much as any Arab government.

I am not trying to justify the racist voices that call for the destruction of Jews or of Israel. What I am trying to point out that there is appalling behaviour from the current Israeli government which certainly does not calm the troubled waters. To ignore it shows a bias against and racism toward the Palestinians.

Hamas is the legitimate organisation to represent Palestinians If there is ever to be a fair outcome for Palestine and Israel you have to listen to both sides honestly and openly.
There is, whether you like it or not, a link between the actions of Israel's government towards Palestine and the actions /voice of some supporters of Palestine across the world. Similar maybe to the support for the IRA from some of those of Irish heritage in the US and UK at the time of the troubles.

PECS

" POGS If we are friends of Israel do we then support the annihilation of all Palestinians?
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I would say you have to define who/what you mean by ' friends of Israel'. Are you using the word 'we' as an individual ?

If you are then that individual may or may not support the idea of the annihilation of Palestinians but if that individual did indeed support the idea of the annihilation of Palestinaians that individual would be as pathetic and vile as as any group /party that advocates the annihilation of ANYBODY including Israelis or the 'kafir' /unbeliever.

If you are a party/group called Friends of Israel , an example would be the Labour Party Friends of Israel , then I certainly would say the answer to your question is most certainly NO. The same as I would say if it were The Labour Friends of Palestine they would not want the annihilation of all Israelis.

The point is Hamas and Hezbollah are black listed as Terrorist Groups by many countries and their mantra is the annihilation of all of the Jewish people, or am I mistaken?. Hamas is a political party I agree but it has been fighting even the other Palestinian Party ' Fatah'. The difference is between Hamas and Fatah is Hamas believes in armed resistence and Fatah negotiation.

As for your other question:-

" it is evident that Israel is determined not to return illegally taken Palestinian land and is changing laws to make life for not Jews more difficult within Israel. Is that OK?

My answer is NO, it is not OK!

Whilst BOTH sides are using arms and rockets then nobody will get anywhere. I do wonder where the Palestine/Israeli conflict would be to date if negotiations were between Fatah and the Israeli government to be honest.

Perhaps Israel might be regarded in a more positive light by Gatwick passengers, after the success of their Drone Dome technology. .

"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6519211/The-2-6m-Israeli-Drone-Dome-Army-used-defeat-Gatwick-UAV.html"
No excuses for being a DM online reader - they get some good stories among all the other rubbish.

If Corbyn and McDonnel are not ashamed of their known political views why the hell is there always a cabal of faithful supporters who ironically challenge those who point it out.

Yes, it's amazing how, even on GN, Corbyn supporters seem to be in denial.

The point is Hamas and Hezbollah are black listed as Terrorist Groups by many countries and their mantra is the annihilation of all of the Jewish people, or am I mistaken?

But they are Corbyn's "friends" - and some people believe this man as PM would be good for the UK.

If he ever gets in to Number Ten it will be in the same way he gained credence when when his party was in disarray, Labour MPs were fighting against him, moderates were being drowned out, the party was split (as it is now) yet Theresa May called an election. She boosted his ratings when very few Labourites wanted his sort of politics.

Since then, hard left Momentum have gained even more power and control who represents the Labour Party, given their dominance of Labours NEC. Only Corbyn supporters are backed.

It's a sad state of affairs that gives a friend of terrorists power only because their opposition, the present government, has had Brexit wranglings to deal with.

Corbyn the opportunist and hard left puppet has relied on the failings of others to levitate his status. We all know the rebellious young-but-naive love him and will vote for him no matter what, alongside the more mature hard-left anti-establishment contingent.

Yes, but are there enough of them? I doubt it.Labour voters as opposed to Labour members think he is an idiot.Thank goodness.

I could not live in a country where the PM was a "friend" of terrorists.

I only hope that at the time of the next General Election people come to their senses and keep Corbyn out of No.10.

Well said Day6

As a member of the Labour Party (fact not claimed ) for over 50 years nothing and no one could persuade me to vote for the party I have always been loyal to whilst Momentum is controlling the party and Corbyn is leader. I am constantly accused of hating Corbyn, not true, I will not support a liar , terrorist supporter , whose one ambition is to destroy the Labour Party .

Agree GrannyGravy

Ha ha ha..I think I meant "elevate" rather than "levitate" in my post (above)

The thought of Corbyn rising and floating above everyone in the HOC doesn't bear thinking about.

Wasn't their a looney MP years ago that thought he could levitate, I think he may have been a LibDem?

The inaccurate information about Hamas posted on this site is symptomatic of the adverse publicity which is given to the Palestinian cause and which leads many down the route to anti-semitism. There is a military wing to Hamas which some regard as terrorist, however it is also the elected government of Gaza and the main provider of socials services in that area. It has also proposed many ways that peace might be reached and has made adjustments to its original code and beliefs.
E.G
In an April 2008 meeting between Hamas leader Khaled Mashal and former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, an understanding was reached in which Hamas agreed it would respect the creation of a Palestinian state in the territory seized by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War, provided this were ratified by the Palestinian people in a referendum. Hamas later publicly offered a long-term truce with Israel if Israel agreed to return to its 1967 borders and grant the "right of return" to all Palestinian refugees.[168] In November 2008, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh re-stated that Hamas was willing to accept a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, and offered Israel a long-term truce "if Israel recognized the Palestinians' national rights".[169] In 2009, in a letter to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, Haniyeh repeated his group's support for a two-state settlement based on 1967 borders: "We would never thwart efforts to create an independent Palestinian state with borders [from] June 4, 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital."[170] On December 1, 2010, Ismail Haniyeh again repeated, "We accept a Palestinian state on the borders of 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital, the release of Palestinian prisoners, and the resolution of the issue of refugees," and "Hamas will respect the results [of a referendum] regardless of whether it differs with its ideology and principles."[171]
The Israeli government continues to allege that the peace initiative is not genuine. It would be simple enough to put in place checks and oversee the process but it is Israel who refuses to enter negotiation and not Hamas.

Then why did Corbyn say to a select committee re calling them friends -

‘With hindsight I was wrong’

trisher

" The inaccurate information about Hamas posted on this site is symptomatic of the adverse publicity which is given to the Palestinian cause and which leads many down the route to anti-semitism. "
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What innacurate information?

POGS
Hezbollah and Hammas ' friends'? Both groups want the annihilation of all Jewish people do they not
Well actually no they don't. Originally after the absolute horror of what was done by the Israelis to Palestinians in order to create the state of Israel they may well have called for this. However they like many others have moved on. The impass is caused now by the inablity of Israel to give ground at all. To accuse them of still calling for this is similar to alleging that Germany is still a fascist country. There may be elements who still believe such things but this is not general policy.

Sounds as if you work in the Hamas or Hezbollah offices trisher !
‘They have moved on’......I doubt it.Even though they know it’s impractical and won’t happen, I bet it’s what they wish for.Their public words and their private words will be two very different things.

That’s a good summing up of the current situation trisher

Corbyn’s very public stance in the past, (never dreaming he would one day be leader of the opposition) on calling these people his friends and being generally anti- Israel,has given the green light to those LP members who are anti-Semitic as well as being anti- Israeli, which is why the LP is being castigated.

Anja .....are you working in the offices as well?

There are two sides to every story of course, but remember that Hamas and Hezbollah have done terrible things, just like the IRA and the end never justifies the means.

I’d add trisher that it’s a well balanced post that acknowledges there may be literate and ignorant who cling historic hatred.

Illiterate