To be fair - Day6's OP quoted the ST 'All the wars in the world'.
Wat was really said we don't know.
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Labour official blames all world wars on Jews.
(164 Posts)From the Sunday Times.
Labour suspends official who blamed ‘all wars in the world’ on Jewish people
Andrew Gilligan
December 16 2018
The Sunday Times
Mohammed Yasin pictured with leader Jeremy Corbyn
"A senior Labour Party official shared anti-semitic material blaming Jews for “all the wars in the world”."
"Labour’s West Midlands regional organiser, Mohammed Yasin, was suspended last night after The Sunday Times approached the party with a dossier of his activity on social media. Labour has launched an investigation."
"For more than two years Yasin, not to be confused with the Labour MP with a similar name, shared anti-semitic posts and 9/11 conspiracy theories, praised a homophobic preacher and described his former leader Tony Blair as a “child-killer”."
Labour's links with racism/antisemitism just won't go away. It really is time for the party to sort itself out.
Yes, thanks Fennel. The title I gave the article might be misleading but 'all the wars in the world" was quoted by the Sunday Times (as in the OP.)
Scapegoating Jews for every atrocity/conflict does seem rather biased, hateful, antagonistic - and very silly.
The second link (The Sun) reports
"On his Twitter account - which has since been deleted - he reportedly shared a Mel Gibson quote saying: "Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world."
"Mr Yasin also posted a message last year which said the West had "lied about 9/11".
The Sun reports
"On his Twitter account - which has since been deleted - he reportedly shared a Mel Gibson quote saying: "Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world."
"Mr Yasin also posted a message last year which said the West had "lied about 9/11".
He's posted his antisemitic rants on public forums. Surely someone within the Labour party would have had the measure of him. How he became a regional organiser for Labour is astonishing.
Ah Mel Gibson now there's a right wing anti-semitist for you. It isn't about left or right it is about repugnant ideas at both ends of the political spectrum.
As for the 9/11 ideas there are numerous books, websites and articles saying things about conspiracy theories, some of them relate to jews and some to Saudi Arabia and its ties with terrorism (oh and to the CIA of course)!
Ah Mel Gibson now there's a right wing anti-semitist for you. It isn't about left or right it is about repugnant ideas at both ends of the political spectrum.
For once, I completely agree with you Trisher.
Mel Gibson is hardly a role model, (he's a nasty piece of work imo) and yes, people who harbour antisemitic feelings, and voice them too, ought to be flushed out.
I wonder when it will be Corbyn's turn?
Day 6 can you post a single link which proves Corbyn is anti-semitic? You like many others confuse opposition to the state of Israel and its inhumane policies with anti-semitism.It's a pity you can't see the difference because it is attitudes like yours that result in many people taking the next step and beginning to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. It is unfortunate that people like you use an issue like anti-semitism to score political points and denigrate someone simply because you dislike him.
that should be It's a pity.
Trisher, I'd say Jeremy Corbyn has generated all his own anti semitic publicity given his words and deeds have been well reported.
He favours Palestine over Israel, for a number of reasons, and that is OK but there is no escaping the fact that under his leadership we have had a whole barrage of incidents and personalities being newsworthy for all the wrong reasons. There has been one scandal after another, and now this latest involving a regional organiser of the Labour Party.
The Jewish community have not marched and protested against him and the Labour Party for no good reason, have they?
Exactly Day6 anti-semitism has flourished under Corbyn’s leadership, and there is a good reason for that, possibly several.Labour members know he favours Palestine and that he is a weak leader for starters.
Corbyn isn’t anti semetic ? anyone who be present at a memorial ceremony to honour terrorists who murdered innocent .olympic athletes isn’t anti semetic ? Not forgetting his admiration for that vile wall mural and attending a Passover dinner with Jewdas,
‘.please God smash the state of Israel’
‘F**’ prince Phillip, f**k the queen,
burn down Parliament ‘
Full communism
No lemon anti-semitism is being dealt with in the LP, hence the suspension of Mohammed Yasin. As far as preferring Palestine over Israel, can you explain to me what is anti-semitic about that? If the people of Israel had been removed from their land, were subject to a blockade and were being steadily bombed back to the middle ages I have no doubt that Corbyn would be supporting them. As it is he supports human rights in the area and the people suffering the most are the Palestinians.
Annie the people who are members of Jewdas are Jewish, in condemning them as you do you might be accused of anti-semitism.-hostility or prejudice against Jews.
"and were being steadily bombed ". etc
Which is what is happening regularly, from Gaza and Lebanon. And constantly finding tunnels from these states.
As well as actual infiltrations and terrorist attacks. But you don't hear anything about those in the british media. Or about the aid that does get through to Palestine, and the Palestinians who come to Israel for medical treatment.
I can understand the motivation of the Palestinians. Not Hizballah though - they're under the influence of Iran.
The Israeli army is called the IDF, Israeli Defence Force. A tiny country not much bigger than Wales, surrounded by huge hostile Arab states. They're fighting for their survival.
Fennel Israel has some of the highest levels of armaments in the world. They are funded and supplied by the US and the UK. It is impossible to argue that these are weapons for defence. They are undoubtedly weapons ofaggression and the amounts being imported have rocketed rapidly in the last few years. They may be small in size but they are better resourced than most other countries.
Trisher,I am condemning them for their words, if only Corbyn had condemned not praised that wall mural .
I condemned on words , you never have ?
Whilst the State of Israel is no innocent nation and is in breach of many international agreements that is completely different from blaming a Jewish community /individuals for the troubles in the world which is blatantly racist. Same as if you thought Muslims were all to blame for wars.
I think the support from the US and UK is because they want to prop up the only non Arab, democratic state in the Middle East.
Because of the oil. And the strategic placement of the Suez Canal.
I don't trust Trump's apparent love of Israel at all. He's also partially dependent on the US Jewish lobby for his position.
It's a very wide subject.
I might argue 'democratic' with you Fennel! Not very democratic to ignore international law/agreements!
Democratic within their own state. Israel has a prop. rep. electoral system which usually leads to a coalition.
As for ignoring international law - it depends how and by whom the int. law is made.
Should int. law overpower domestic law? Sounds like one of the brexit arguments against the EU.
As opposed to the Arab states in the ME which are mostly governed by ruling families, more or less autocratic/ benevolent.
ps sorry - this only applies to the Gulf States.
We've had this discussion before. I will just ask one question. If roles were reversed and it was a Palestinian state that was suppressing Israeli citizens would you find the situation as acceptable?
Yes this topic often comes up and there's no solution.
And I don't find the situation acceptable, as I've also said before. I'm just trying to show that it's not simply bully vs victim.
I'm sorry for the Palestinians, I don't blame them for trying to fight back, but their own govt. doesn't help.
There are bad eggs and extremists in both parties - but unfortunateley the media chooses only to report on things that meet their own Agenda. The vitriol, racism and downright nastiness of some members of the Governing party are never discussed or reported on. And when it does report on Lab - it is usually twisted, out of context and the apologies given a few months later almost unnoticeable. The vendetta of misinformation and smearing against Corbyn is atrocious. Being anti Israel IS NOT Anti Semitism.
Of course it isn’t Knickers but when you have a leader of the opposition who is well known to dislike Israel and who has so many dodgy Arab friends, this gives the green light to many who are anti-semitic to bang on about their own twisted views.
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