Trump's wall

Pedalpower, one very significant difference between the Israeli/Egypt wall and Trump’s wall is that the Israeli government supported their wall but the necessary majority of the US government doesn’t support Trump’s.

It goes against the US history and tradition of being a melting pot and its pride in the sentiments displayed on the Staue of Liberty.

“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

I’ve just read that Trump is threatening to close the border with Mexico entirely if he doesn’t get his way. Odious man.

Odious is a polite way of referring to that man!!

Jane10, Tartlet, in my opinion if the moral issue is the same, then there is no difference to the question if our values are universal and applied fairly accross the board rather than selectively.
Essentially, this is the same question and totally irrelevant whether all members in the Israeli government agree or not. Universal agreement in the Israeli government can't bestow morality to a bad situation - Palestinian or Mexican.

We’ll have to agree to differ. I think you are oversimplifying the border control issue to imply that the existence of a wall is either always good or always bad. Nor do I think it’s necesarily a moral issue but more one of values and beliefs coupled with circumstances.

I’d probably better not mention the ethical issue of a president attempting to use blackmail to get his own way and putting government employees in financial harm’s way in the process.

Helpful advice has been issued for those federal workers currently on "furlough" aka involuntary leave of absence and, therefore, not receiving any pay includes the suggestion that if they cannot pay their rent, they should offer to do chores, such as painting or carpentry, for their landlords in lieu. Donald Trump says that most of these people have already contacted him to say how much they want the border wall and that he should maintain the government shutdown until the money for the wall is forthcoming. That's a lot of painting and sawing!

Tartlet please do memtion the issue of blackmail. It’s so Trump. Can’t get his way, throws a tantrum. That’s why he’s often depicted in a nappy and with a dummy.

President Trump is intent on completing a border wall with Mexico, even if it means instigating a trade war with the U.S.'s second-biggest export market. His spokesman said Wednesday that the U.S. might levy a blanket 20 percent tax on Mexican imports as one way of fulfilling Trump's campaign promise that Mexico would pay for the wall.

Trump promotes the notion that migrants have been flooding across an insecure border, and taking jobs that would otherwise go to Americans. To be sure, there are indeed millions of unauthorized immigrants working in the U.S., though economists are divided on whether the contributions to the economy they make ultimately create more job opportunities for U.S. citizens. The Pew Research Center estimates that “the U.S. civilian workforce included 8 million unauthorized immigrants in 2014, accounting for 5% of those who were working or were unemployed and looking for work.”

And the largest chunk of those unauthorized immigrants are indeed from Mexico, which is the clear target of the wall, along with other Central American countries.

But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.

The numbers are estimates, of course, because the flow of unauthorized migration across the U.S.-Mexico border is, by its nature, surreptitious. Pew uses a modeling tool that draws from various sources, including Mexico’s national household survey, to make its best estimate.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b87230b5794b

The key promise Trump made in his election campaign was that the Mexicans would pay for the wall. What's the problem? maybe the Mexicans don't want to pay?

Trump voters are like leave voters in that they were deceived into believing the impossible.