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Anna Soubry

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varian Mon 07-Jan-19 18:28:08

MP Anna Soubry has criticised the police for failing to intervene after she was verbally abused by protesters outside Parliament.

The Conservative ex-minister was accused "of being a Nazi", while being interviewed on the BBC News channel.

She called for the protesters, who were wearing yellow vests, to be prosecuted under public order legislation.

Commons Speaker John Bercow said he was worried about a "pattern" of women MPs and journalists being targeted.

Raising the issue in the House of Commons, Labour's Mary Creagh said the "really vile, misogynistic thuggery" that had been seen was not an isolated incident.

She accused far-right groups of re-playing Monday's clip and others like it on social media sites to "raise revenue for their trolling activities".

Ms Soubry, the pro-European MP for Broxtowe who supports another Brexit referendum, was subjected to verbal abuse while being interviewed by the BBC's Simon McCoy.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46785357

lemongrove Tue 08-Jan-19 18:08:30

Sigh! Varian over 17 million people voted for Brexit.
The 100 who acted that way are probably EDL types.
The rest of us don’t need to go on marches.

crystaltipps Tue 08-Jan-19 18:11:03

Those who say heckling has always gone on and it’s the same for all politicians really miss the point that women MPs are subject to worse threats and abuse than male MPs, these threats should be taken seriously and perpetrators should be dealt with harshly by the police. Are Brexit supporters really happy that these type of thugs are associated with them?

lemongrove Tue 08-Jan-19 18:12:26

Read my above post.

Gaggi3 Tue 08-Jan-19 18:15:59

Public abuse and hate speech should never be acceptable. Ignorance and bigotry should not flourish. I am reminded of a case some years ago, where a doctor, in Wales, was hounded from her home, which was daubed with graffiti, because concerned locals didn't know the difference between paediatrician and paedophile.

MissAdventure Tue 08-Jan-19 18:16:50

I don't associate those type of thugs with anyone.
I'm sure if it wasn't brexit they would have some other axe to grind.

Anniebach Tue 08-Jan-19 18:21:05

Yesterday was more than heckling

Grandad1943 Tue 08-Jan-19 18:27:15

Varian is right to draw peoples attention to the fact that 700,000 remain supporters marched through London without any public order problems whatsoever.

However, leave campaign demonstrations now seem to be dominated by appalling behaviour, drunkenness and (as we witnessed yesterday) extream physical threats to public figures who not share the warped view of Britain they hold in their minds.

varian Tue 08-Jan-19 18:29:21

Sadly the whole brexit scenario and the vicious propaganda of the right-wing tabloids have given permission for these hooligans to crawl out from under their stones and spew out their hatred.

Responsible leavers (if there are any) should condemn them.

MawBroon Tue 08-Jan-19 18:47:17

I think the last time I was aware of this sort of level of anger and vitriol was the Poll Tax or perhaps the Miners’ Strike
Gransnetters in Scotland had to endure something similar around the time of the independence Referendum.
All very very regrettable.

GreenGran78 Tue 08-Jan-19 18:57:49

The obsession with outdoor interviews has to be curbed. Granada TV have just had a poor half-frozen newsman standing on a bridge over the M58, in almost total darkness, talking about a tragic accident that happened this morning.
Apart from the wasteful cost of transporting the team there for the interview, we could scarcely here him for the rush-hour traffic noise.
The studio presenter then apologised for the poor sound quality!

GreenGran78 Tue 08-Jan-19 18:59:03

Whoops! Hear, not here!

Grandad1943 Tue 08-Jan-19 19:05:21

Media outdoor interviews must not be terminated because of the actions of extream right wing Brexitiers. The foregoing would do huge damage to Britain's system of democratic free speech.

If the Media companies wish to carry out interviews in the above manner it is essential I feel that they are able to do so in the name of that free speech.

maxdecatt Tue 08-Jan-19 19:14:37

John Bercow is concerned about abuse of female polirticians. Yet he abused Andrea Leadsom in the House of Commons!
Anna Soubry, like ALL other UK politicians, fails to understand that the voters did not ask them to debate leaving the EU. The voters INSTRUCTED the government to take us out of the EU. It was not a suggestion to parliament and all politicians to waste their breasth talking about it. The decision was made by the democratic majority, it was an INSTRUCTION to the government and to them alone...so nothing to do with individual politicians. The fact is that parliament has hijacked the referendum and turned that INSTRUCTION into a suggestion that they should debate the topic. Quite clearely they have usurped the power of the people...the sort of thing that traitors and fascists do in dodgy areas of the world...so Anna Soubury needs to understand why she is being called things she does not like...not forgetting that her own constuency voted LEAVE and that she sneers at "white working class" voters who "do not understand" the issue "as she does". The woman is arrigant, snobbish, sneering and beghaves like a demented harpy when she cannot get her own way.

maxdecatt Tue 08-Jan-19 19:18:05

A few spelling mistakes! Sorry. Pity there is no option to edit a post after you send it.

Jaycee5 Tue 08-Jan-19 19:18:42

crystaltipps They aren't associated with me or the vast majority of Leave voters. Neither is Farage associated with me or the majority of Leave voters.
Are you associated with Goldman Sachs, if so how do you feel about what they did to Greece and their part in the sub-prime scandal?
Guilt by association has always been wrong and always will be.
I doubt if these thugs even vote. They just do what Tommy Robinson tells them to.
Most Brexiters have condemned the intimidation of Soubry. Some of us have also condemned the intimidation of Owen Jones.
You can't just decide to hold random people responsible for the thuggery of a few because of what they claim to believe in. Are you responsible for the online abuse that Remainers give to Leave voters? Do you challenge the name calling then?

MawBroon Tue 08-Jan-19 19:22:35

Anna Soubury needs to understand why she is being called things she does not like...not forgetting that her own constuency voted LEAVE and that she sneers at "white working class" voters who "do not understand" the issue "as she does". The woman is arrigant, snobbish, sneering and beghaves like a demented harpy when she cannot get her own way

I am sorry maxdecatt but Anna Soubry like any other citizen has the right to enter her place of work unimpeded, and being called a “Nazi or traitor” is a far cry from being called “things she does not like”
Like them or loathe them, our MPs should be able to go about their business with adequate security.
The police must be unbiased or what price democracy ?

Jalima1108 Tue 08-Jan-19 19:29:31

Are Brexit supporters really happy that these type of thugs are associated with them?
They are not, though, are they crystaltipps?

They assume the mantle of 'Brexiteers' but are not typical of the majority of people of all parties who voted to leave the EU.

Jalima1108 Tue 08-Jan-19 19:31:10

The woman is arrigant, snobbish, sneering and beghaves like a demented harpy when she cannot get her own way.

How ironic considering what the rent-a-mob posing as Brexiteers said to her!!

MaizieD Tue 08-Jan-19 20:09:06

The voters INSTRUCTED the government to take us out of the EU.

No they didn't. It was (whatever Cameron said) an advisory referendum so a small majority advised the government to take us out of the EU.

Fennel Tue 08-Jan-19 20:17:47

As Maizie says.
Why isn't this published more?
IMO the biggest example of the distortion of the truth in this whole mess.
A referendum hasn't got the same legal status as eg a general election. Legally the result of a referendum is only advisory. Whereas a G.E. result is definitive.

karenGalaxy Tue 08-Jan-19 20:29:10

What is the world coming to ,I've read ,listened and still don't have a clue ,but if I here the word once more . Action speaks louder than words.

Jalima1108 Tue 08-Jan-19 20:33:42

I'm rather confused karenGalaxy

Are you saying that these so-called Brexiteer thugs should have taken action rather than shouting at Anna Soubry?

I don't understand your post, sorry.

crystaltipps Tue 08-Jan-19 20:36:10

mxdecatt it wasn’t an instruction. Get your facts right.
Those thugs aren’t just saying things “she doesn’t like” they are threatening - death threats, rape threats , sounds like you approve of that.

moggie57 Tue 08-Jan-19 21:27:42

who? i dont really bother with the media/press. i got better things to do than listen to that lot. a friend who sadly not here now. said "imagine them naked" lol......some mps got no feelings anyway. its them looking down to the likes of us. and for that i dont give a monkeys ???

MawBroon Tue 08-Jan-19 21:36:19

Well thank you for that insightful comment moggie you may hold the lot of them in (justifiable) contempt, but they do hold our future and that of our children and grandchildren in their hands.
I don’t see how anybody could have missed what has been happening outside parliament over the last 36 hours and the behaviour (lack of response) of or “wonderful” police force.