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Why would a car manufacturer build cars that nobody wants to buy.

Along come the excuses! Julia H-B is promoting the same line as you on twitter, GG

From the Daily Express 2016

Sunderland rocks to the new Brexit beat as Nissan renews investment
FEWER than five months after it became a poster child for Brexit, it seems Sunderland is experiencing something of a revival.

PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Nov 6, 2016 | UPDATED: 11:52, Mon, Nov 7, 2016

Nissan’s renewed investment in Sunderland is typical of this North East city
Last week the city’s main employer, Nissan, announced it would step up investment in the region by building the new Qashqai SUV and X-Trail models there, securing 7,000 jobs

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/729102/Sunderland-Brexit-Nissan-Silicon-Valley-reboot

Also, this interesting twitter thread about other Japanese businesses in the UK

twitter.com/pernilleru/status/1092069196475842560

Can we just accept that Nissan said the uncertainty over Brexit was part of the reason?

GG why do you think they are building it then? I doubt they would if they couldn't sell them.

They are building for the Asian market, with the exception of China who as a rule tend not to buy Japanese vehicles.

The UK and I believe the EU are working to ban all diesel vehicles within the next 15 years (?)

But GG you said Why would a car manufacturer build cars that nobody wants to buy. and clearly they are being bought.

Not as many as they anticipated due to the backlash against diesel vehicles.

So clearly people are buying them which means Why would a car manufacturer build cars that nobody wants to buy. is incorrect. Yet another casualty of Brexit even if that was only one of the reasons, think straw and camel's back.

well said GG, good for you. I agree with your comments alot.

Nissan are actually increasing production greatly of the other models at Sunderland instead. So no loss

Try this then:

Nissan's Europe division boss Gianluca de Ficchy announced that the decision was a mixture of investment needed for emissions regulations and reduced sales forecasts and that added uncertainty over Brexit had also played a part.

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/esther-mcvey-denies-nissan-decision-linked-brexit/

oooh and a big cheers for a hard brexit. will all be ok, it is after all what we... me,, the majority voted for..

All this project fear bluffs can not change the vote, not extend Brexit .is is in law...

It is called a democracy..... quite easy to understand I think , along with the word....majority......

best wishes

Toddle off then, dearie! I'm sure contributors to this thread, whether pro or anti brexit will cope without your comments which are both naive and patronising.

Sorry Andy the “majority of the U.K. “ did not vote for a hard Brexit. Not sure how that fits in with democracy. You might be ok, but a lot of people won’t be.

GG and andy you obviously know more about Nissan than the boss of Nissan who clearly stated that uncertainty over Brexit was one of their reasons for not going ahead with new production.

My guess is that you do not live in Sunderland ac69 where the opportunity for many new jobs and apprentices have been lost? We can't be gung ho about a hard. Brexit when so many jobs may be affected.

Well GG, andy and POGS there don’t seem to be many of us Leavers on this site! You’ve held up well GG against a lot of battering - and it doesn’t help whe, when you try to put your point of view across - MaizieD comes weighing in saying:

Along come the excuses!

I wonder if there are some other Leavers reading this (some call themselves ‘lurkers’) who might like to chip in and help? These forums are like a bear garden! Not for the faint hearted, that’s for sure.

By the way, I heard on the news this afternoon that Japan’s economy is taking an unexpected hit and so Nissan we’re persuaded to make these diesel cars at home for the Asian market thereby helping their own economy in the process.

There is usually more to a story than Brexit! We do know that Brexit will be the handy coat peg for everything negative after 29 March!

Urmstongran I am a "quiet" leave voter but, I am just utterly fed up to my back teeth of every single negative news item being credited to "Brexit"!!!!

We have lost manufacturing from the UK over the last 20+ years, so no change really.

Urmstongran

I did not vote Leave I voted Remain.

I interject when name calling and lies are told usually but after 2 years + of the same arguments being played out on the ' copious ' amount of Brexit threads the stuck record syndrome has even bored me.

I have recently said I could possibly change my mind if there was a second referendum .

Oops! Sorry POGS but then it does demonstrate how very fair minded you are indeed. That’s nice.
GG I agree wholeheartedly ??

Some of the posters are so strident it makes me hesitant about posting sometimes. It would be less daunting if it were just a discussion but the Remainers constantly want ‘facts & links’ and post huge tracts which, if I’m honest, I don’t always read - they are so long!

I notice GabriellaG54 has deserted the Brexit forums and as a Leaver I miss her input ha!

I can’t decide whether to bow out myself .... some of the comments are quite harsh. ?

Urmstongran

No problem at all.

My default position was remain, our 5 AC persuaded me to put my cross in the leave box. I must abide by my vote, which is why I try to find the non-combative way through this shambles.
Not all the bad things that are happening at the moment are the result of the “B” vote.
Mainland Europe has an enormous amount of economic uncertainty, the European Central Bank needs constant support from Germany, when will it all implode? I personally have no idea, but I would rather the UK was not responsible for financially bailing out the Euro.

Can’t have facts getting in the way of a discussion ?

If you think we're harsh, Urmstongran, I suggest you have a look at this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3495677-I-survived-1980s-recession-as-a-kid-Im-sure-Ill-survive-this?pg=1&order=

Read the whole thread to get a proper feel of how another set of people are feeling.

The Leave vote has caused a great deal of fear and worry for many many people. Fear and worry that many of them have been living with for more than 2 years now. I have no doubt that Leavers on here will dismiss this out of hand, they've also been doing so ever since the referendum, but their vote has caused very real pain. I wish they would face this.

On the other hand, being in the EU has caused no comparable pain and a Remain vote, while it might have been annoying, would not have led to such turmoil in people's lives.

I think most Remainers on here are remarkably restrained.

I read the link you supplied in full MaizieD thank you for taking the time to post it.

No, GN is, in my opinion very cutting on a personal level to any supporter of Brexit. It takes ‘guts’ as one poster challenged us to go against the flow on here.

Urmston no one has been harsh to GG as far as I can see, we have just asked her to clarify or suggested that she is mistaken.

You posted Some of the posters are so strident it makes me hesitant about posting sometimes. It would be less daunting if it were just a discussion but the Remainers constantly want ‘facts & links’ I agree about the stridency but wonder if you are suggesting it is only from Remainers? It is not. What is wrong with wanting facts and links please? Surely that is the whole point of a discussion? Is there another way of deciding what is the right thing to do?