What next?

For those people saying people voted and it’s democracy and that has to be upheld, the point about the democracy is that you can change your mind . that’s why it’s different to a dictatorship.!!! It’s almost 3 years since the last referendum, when practically nothing else has got done in the country, so why can’t people have a chance to rethink ?

Well said. And it’s been a long time now since the referendum and things have changed. I’m sick to death of hearing about the will of the people.

If there were another referendum, and the result was 48/52, again, but this time a vote to remain, would the those who voted to stay in regard it as a definitive result, this time? (FWIW, I voted remain.) I'm just wondering about perspective regarding one's vote and views.

We were only given a binary choice in the referendum i.e. stay or leave we didn’t voyte for any of this. How many people really understood about the Irish border complications and customs union et cetera et cetera

The only authority which can revoke Article 50 is the British Parliament. Europe has nothing to do with it at all. Europe only becomes involved if parliament wants to change/ move the date ie put it back.

We should have Another referendum with the truth this time. And maybe young people will get off their moany seats and vote. Many did but as I discovered working for electoral services, the older the person, the more they registered and the younger had to be chased and chased. A graph would show this.

Can I just deal with your points one by one.

Whatever deal is presented, we'd have to pay billions. Leave said we'd get back £350 million a WEEK for the NHS. That turned out to be a lie.

''Go for no deal and walk away''. Will you be happy to see the motorway from Dover turned into a lorry park for 25 miles, for goods to rot in lorries? For your medication to be non-existent because pharmacists can't get any from abroad?
Any trade deals with the Far East, Australasia etc are totally impractical. Do you want to see trade deals with Trump which bring chlorine rinsed chicken and hormone ridden beef to the UK, not to mention no checks on food hygiene?

''We might have to face a couple of hard years''. No deal is like falling into an abyss. Nobody knows how long it will take to recover. If anyone here remembers hardships during the war, I imagine this would be a LOT worse.

''I don't want the UK to be a small state in a Federal Europe.'' The EU has united Europe for 70 years and we need them more than they need us. Grants to impoverished areas like Cornwall and South Wales have been given in EU subsidies, along with subsidies for farmers and fishermen. All that will now be lost, resulting in the economy plummeting further. Do you want to go back to the Empire mentality when we've not had an Empire for over 50 years?

The EU is ''corrupt''. As is this government. Full of ex-businessmen and women who think they can run the UK like the companies they once bossed about. May granting absolution to 2 sex pest MP's (Charlie Elphicke & Andrew Griffiths) so they can vote in her favour and many other examples.
Corrupt? I'll say.

''Money wasted by the EU''. No worse than MP's claiming expenses for moat cleaning, duck houses, car journeys of less than a mile, bathplugs, the use of porn channels etc.

I just don't understand the mentality of people who seemingly want to push the UK and its people off the metaphorical cliff's edge.

Lyndiloo I think you are being very optimistic if you think the ramifications of this will only last a couple of years. Even the Brexiteer say it will take a generation.

And can somebody tell me what 'getting our Sovereignty back' actually means?

All I can say is MPs have treated Theresa May disgracefully and should be ashamed. I didn't vote leave and those who did probably didn't realise what it involved. United we stand divided we fall...…...history repeating itself time and time again.

I believe democracy is a precious thing and if we are given a vote we should use it. That said, I don’t think the public should ever have been given this referendum, for reasons which were made abundantly clear by the result - a gut reaction taken with no real understanding of the convoluted issues involved. I voted remain for several reasons, not the least of which was because I felt I didn’t have enough information to be able to vote leave - the campaigning on both sides seemed chaotic and there was very little in the way of factual information amongst the political rhetoric and infighting. I suspect many people did the same and I also suspect that many who voted leave did so as a knee jerk reaction to the much publicised excesses and overblown powers of the EU without giving much thought to what we would actually lose. Over the years since the vote I feel I have learned a lot of facts which should have been at my fingertips at the time of the vote and I think a lot of people must feel the same. Put simply, I don’t think the original vote served democracy very well. It took place in a chaotic and hostile atmosphere and with no attempt to educate the public in what either outcome would actually mean, and since the vote, both leavers and remainers have had time to absorb the enormity of what we have done. So at the risk of bringing down the wrath of Gransnetters on my head, I think democracy would be better served if we could revoke article 50 and start again. We should be demanding factual information, not partisan rhetoric, and perhaps then we could all vote with a better understanding of the consequences - be it remain or leave.

There was a democratic vote. It’s result should be respected by all and, as this is a national rather than political matter, should be negotiated by a cross party group.

Theresa May certainly was handed a poisoned chalice and surely nobody thinks that she sat down and actually drafted the Brexit deal all by herself! Actually, before the referendum, she campaigned to remain in the EU...

Well said lindiloo.
I have had variousdealing with EU and Brussels over the years and " jobs for the boys " and they have tried their best to scupper the British exit , they want to rule the whole of Europe which is not what we originally signed up for . We have been taken advantage of and not respected- they didn't believe we would withdraw so did nothing about improving the return of our financial contributions or listened to our issues We have been treated like a cash cow !

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The main thing that annoys me is politician career building using the situation and in so doing are damaging our country. Why are we letting them do this

If, in my job, we don't get on and do what's decided there would be repercussions accompanied by comments of 'is the tail wagging the dog?' and 'we decide it, you make it happen'. (Any more admin people out there? ) Aren't MPs supposed to carry out the wishes of the people they represent? Imo MPs are glorified administrators but, because being an MP is such a lucrative career, they have an elevated sense of their own importance. I guess they haven't had so much to do while the EU parliament was sorting everything out for them, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't get on with it now. We surely have enough brains in Westminster to stop bickering, get on with their well-paid jobs, and find a proper solution.

With regard to the Prime Minister there surely isn't a single MP, whatever the party, who wants her job at the moment, so the vote of no confidence is another red herring.

I have heard more than one person say they voted to remain but, if there was a second vote, they would vote to leave as democracy is more important to them. I remember, as many of us surely do, this country before EU, when we voted to join a Common Market, as did other EU countries. I don't remember a vote since, or a single letter (think bank accounts) changing the T&C since that vote. Sadly, like many have said, I'm unlikely to vote again, for the first time ever, for any of our so-called representatives from any party. My personal vote of no confidence. I think the suffragettes have been betrayed by career politicians.

I don't understand what sovereignty is.

Lyndiloo unfortunately I think you’ll find that a lot of the legislation you object to comes from our government and not the EU. So I’m not sure that having ‘our sovereignty’ will improve anything!

I totally agree with everything Lyndiloo says. I voted not to join the Common Market in 1972, I could forsee some of what it evolved to become. The EU have always been biased against the UK. Mrs Thatcher was the only one strong enough to stand up to them, Mrs May is too weak. She should have gone to the negotiation tables telling them what WE wanted if they wanted their 38 million! And if those poor deluded remainders want another vote, can we also have another vote on the 1972 decision to join??

Worse than the war years?!!!!! You have to be joking!! Nothing is worse than being bombed, our young men killed in droves, merchant ships being sunk daily with enormous loss of goods and men, battle ships and aeroplanes being blown out of the sky and sea, many many children deprived of their fathers, many many babies born without fathers, many many young women widowed and expected to manage with pittance pensions, enormous shortages both during and particularly after the war, the very real fear of invasion. Most frightening of all though was the fear of losing the war and being overwhelmed by Germany. Looking at the continent and the horrors of the occupied countries, it was a very real fear! I would suggest that you have little or no knowledge of the war, because believe you me NOTHING that is being experienced today or in the future comes anywhere close to being as awful as those war/post war years!

Lyndiloo Well said

How can Jeremy Corbyn talk about the EU being flexible and open to fresh negotiations. How deluded can one get.

Sorry meant remainders, finger slipped!

Lyndiloo you are so right. I couldn't agree more. The BBC just promote every negative they can find and do not give us impartial news. I met someone who was so afraid they were stockpiling food! Most of our trade is not with Europe anyway and are they really going to stop trading with us? I don't think so. It all reminds me of the fear of the millennium bug in 1999 that all our computers would crash the following year. They didn't.

It's a Kabuki Show.

With TC asking for a vote of no confidence and JC obliged just before the final curtain.

More today on another meaningless vote.

Thankfully we have a date enshrined in law to oblige us to leave in accordance with the results of the Referendum.

I’m with Lyndiloo 100%. The world does not begin and end with Europe, we will find a new way in time if everyone just stops bellyaching and work together to deliver what was voted for. Whatever happened to the British sense of FairPlay? You play a game, you lose, you move on.