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Load of rubbish Lindylou. We have gained a great deal from being in the EU and we should allow our young people to have the same benefits we have received. Whats the choice? crash out and go in with mad man Trump and all his mad ideas. I think there will be no general election and May will get a 2 year extension. In the meantime we will blunder on with no thing getting done with about home affairs and money being wasted.

Totally agree with you, ayse. It is possible to revoke Article
50, but can you imagine this or any other government of ours taking that step? They have no idea how to proceed
and only think along party lines and what they can get out of this.
I currently still live in France as our house is not selling.
The uncertainty of the last few years has affected people
badly. If we leave without a deal , we may no longer have health cover etc etc but nobody knows.
A complete disgrace and I feel embarrassed to be British -
Sorry!

Thank you Lyndiloo for expressing so well what i and countless others have been thinking for the last few years!

Lindyloo agree entirely with you. Who will foot Jean Claude Junckers Armagnac bill if we leave?

The popcorn makers are flying off the shelves...

Whether the EU is bad or good (and I think it could be seen as both), I doubt very much that in this globalized world, controlled largely by big corporations, we will ever really now have true 'sovereignty' (whatever that means) or be fully able to control our own borders, etc.

People didn’t vote leave just because of lower wages. People voted out for a myriad of reasons. All this trouble began when the poorer eastern bloc countries were allowed in. They’ve flooded into this country and if you saw how some people are having to live in areas of such high concentration of these immigrants you’d vote leave too. A friend of mine finally paid of her mortgage on a very modest home and now lives in a rubbish dump. Surrounded by the new arrivals crammed into houses and then moving into every house that becomes vacant. The rubbish on the road and pavement has to be seen to be believed. She has seen rats on the pavement. As for the Polish Roma - well i doubt very much you’d want to live near them. Get down off your high horses and spare a thought fir decent people whose communities have been wrecked.

The EU have told us that there is not another deal, this is it,
therefore Mr Corbyn and his crew won't make an iota of difference. I admit to being a remainer but respect the decision of the majority.

Who can we possibly vote for at the next election?

the benefits we have received?
An ailing NHS, cutbacks in services, many companies owned by foreign conglomerates, railways off track, schools having to ask parents to buy books pencils etc, crumbling roads, broken borders, dirty hospitals, poor policing...?
All great eh and fit to pass on to our children?
You must be joking.

Schoey, please tell me, in practical terms, how we stop this? I only have one vote at MPs whim. Seems inadequate and I'm frustrated but confess to feeling unequipped to turn the situation around. I have a looney solution but, unfortunately, it can't happen.

Very heated debate this morning. I just wonder how many people understood what they were actually voting for when they voted leave or stay?

Still hoping we can come eventually to a looser customs and co-operation treaty. This shouting is all part of the negotiation. Turn on a music station and look away. Or BBC World Service - this fuss is just one thing going on in a quite big world.

Lyndiloo I agree with you entirely. The EC is not the trading organisation I voted for back in 1975, it has grown exponentially and to my mind into an inefficient and autocratic organisation. How can 27/28 different countries easily reach an agreement on anything? And being in the eurozone seems to have destroyed countries such as Greece. Since the Brexit vote, our politicians have created a huge mess, and I’m sure that any other PM of the past could have made better progress in negotiations with the EU.

For all who remember(i was a child) when we joined it was called 'The Common Market'-now all the hype is European union- but before we were part of it UK survived perfectly ok- even won a war or two- so i wouldnt worry too much.As for a coalition gov sarahmob-i thought thats EXACTLY what we had voted in last time?But still all of a sudden it was a CONSERVATIVE in PM's seat?-Why couldnt all 3 major parties had a turn each?And i can remember how it was last time they let a lady have a turn,so what made them think it would be any better this time round?At least maggie thatcher werent a nervy woman who constantly looks "like a rabbit caught in the headlights",like Mrs may does.Fact is,ALL politicians promise all this& that then do beggar all once they get in!

tickingbird
I agree with much of your comment however, there are notable exceptions.
About 14 miles from my home, just outside Guildford on the A286, a couple of lads (Romanian/Polish? not sure) started a car washing business by the roadside with buckets and cloths.
It's expanded to employ many more staff, proper signage, professional hoses etc and they do a fantastic job inside and out, much better than I've had elsewhere.
It's hard graft and determination that got them there, in all weathers and there is usually a queue a mile long.

M2, I do believe I understood enough (by NO MEANS all) of the goings-on of the EU to make my decision. As for the silly bus. Who on earth believed what it said? I remember immediately thinking "that'll be right!" I guess we all had different reasons for the way we voted and not one of them is less important to us than anyone else. I think the best human attribute would be an open mind and those who have been personally convicted that they made the wrong decision have my utmost respect.

Would YOU give money to a business or charity which refused to have it's accounts audited, because that's what is happening when we hand over billions to the EU.
A gravy train if ever there was one.

What a mess! I sometimes feel ashamed of this mess being an ex pat, but then here is Sweden we havent had a Government for four months, they are still debating, wherever I am its a mess, so I wont say anything!

EllanVannin the EU don't have any money of their own. Money that we get from the EU is our own money (UK taxpayers). They give us back approximately 65% and keep the rest. They also tell us how to spend the 65% that they return to us.

have it's accounts

Proofreading GabriellaG?

Predictive texting!

All then failures you listed GG are not the fault of the EU but this government.

Just what are all these "options" that have popped up since Xmas? They're breeding like maggots on a corpse. None of them seem simple, make sense, or are remotely connected to the ordinary lives of ordinary people.

I thought Westminster was supposed to represent the electorate but it's turned into almost a private cosy bubble (and a bloody lucrative one!) for career politicians who only choose to notice that Mr & Mrs Joe Public exist when it's election time and they want to save their well paid arses. Even then we only become a Necessary Evil.

I wish the whole lot would be abducted by aliens......

Very well said Barnet

By the way before joining the EU I think I remember there were restrictions on how much holiday could be took money out of the country, will this come back into force?