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The cliff edges nearer because May doesn’t want to split party!

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Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 07:39:59

Theresa May has effectively ruled out Labour’s proposal for a Brexit compromise, stressing her objection to staying inside a customs union. “I am not clear why you believe it would be preferable to seek a say in future EU trade deals rather than the ability to strike our own deals?” she wrote to Jeremy Corbyn. The PM argued that her own Brexit plan “explicitly provides for the benefits of a customs union” in terms of avoiding tariffs, while allowing “development of the UK’s independent trade policy beyond our economic partnership with the EU”.

She accepted a customs union could potentially have delivered her a Commons majority but at the serious risk of splitting her party.

The letter comes amid a growing presumption that while May remains officially committed to putting a revised Brexit plan to MPs as soon as possible, in practice this is unlikely to happen before the end of February. Business leaders have called for quicker action, with the head of the CBI, Carolyn Fairbairn, saying the UK is “in the emergency zone of Brexit now” and the confusion will not just affect jobs and investment, but harm the UK as a long-term business destination.

andycameron69 Wed 06-Mar-19 19:12:11

out we go

varian Thu 07-Mar-19 14:32:11

What is a no-deal Brexit? Consequences of the UK leaving the EU without a deal

inews.co.uk/news/brexit/no-deal-brexit-what-meaning-uk-leave-uk-consequences/

andycameron69 Thu 07-Mar-19 16:00:53

all will be fine

smile

varian Fri 08-Mar-19 11:37:31

"BREAKING POINT- The Brexit elites have failed us all
The UK is being swamped by a tide of incompetents"

www.indy100.com/article/brexit-nigel-farage-breaking-point-poster-led-by-donkeys-redesign-8811991

jura2 Fri 08-Mar-19 12:22:28

That adaptation of the Leave poster is truly brilliant- and totally scary, for sure.

andycameron69 Fri 08-Mar-19 18:16:36

all will be gorgeous and a true exit...

smiles

jura2 Fri 08-Mar-19 19:19:17

Huge respect for Dame Margaret, saying it as it is:

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/dame-margaret-beckett-theresa-may-brexit-blackmail/?fbclid=IwAR3p6AAC6AtlMFpPBr32GgWi6E05m2NZ3bOkSo_G7lzhOHYtnFN3lyP7Ouc

varian Fri 08-Mar-19 19:24:58

Margaret Becket was the only member of the panel on this week's QT who spoke any sense and she was booed by the audience specially selected by ex-UKIP member Alison Fuller Pedley.

It has now got to the point that any panelist who tells the truth about brexit will be booed by her specially selected audience. You could almost use that as an indicator of a sensible truthful panelist. Well done Margaret Becket.

jura2 Fri 08-Mar-19 19:27:31

Can you explain a bit more about this Fuller Pedley person and her rôle at the BBC- please.

varian Fri 08-Mar-19 19:38:02

The audience producer for the BBC news debate show Question Time has been “reminded” by the BBC of the corporation’s guidelines regarding social media use, after she shared Facebook posts by the far-right group Britain First.

Alison Fuller-Pedley, who works as an audience producer for the popular news panel program, which sees guests debate the issues of the day with audience participation, shared five of the far-right group’s Facebook posts exhorting support for the British armed forces and the wearing of the commemorative poppy. She also ‘liked’ a page called “British Patriotic Front”. Both Facebook pages carry extreme racist and ultra-British nationalist content.

Fuller-Pedley’s job gives her responsibility over organising the participating audience for the programme.

Speaking to CommonSpace, a BBC spokesperson said: “The Question Time audience is always chosen by a team to ensure broad political balance and each application goes through the same rigorous background checks. Any suggestion to the contrary is misleading.

“The BBC has clear impartiality guidelines covering the use of personal social media - this freelance producer and the rest of the programme team have been reminded of their responsibilities.”

Fuller-Pedley works for Mentorn Media, which is commissioned by the BBC to create the Question Time programme.

www.commonspace.scot/articles/10001/bbc-reprimands-question-time-producer-over-far-right-social-media-posts

Aparently she has done this job for twenty years and is a former member of UKIP, which possibly explains why Nigel Farage was invited on to QT 29 times in the years leading up to the 2016 referendum, and no other MEP was ever invited, except for the ultra-right wing Conservative brexiter MEP Daniel Hannan who was invited once.

No MEP from any other party ever got the opportunity to appear on QT for all these years.

Although this woman was not directly employed by the BBC, the importance of QT as a BBC "flagship" programme has led, naturally to it being known as the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.

jura2 Fri 08-Mar-19 19:55:05

WOW Varian, thank you. I have to admit I had no idea.
Surely this should be challenged at highest level.

andycameron69 Sat 09-Mar-19 08:25:40

the BBC is so biased it is unbelievable.

Brussels Broadcasting Corp.

vile institution

oh and only 20 days to go

grin

varian Sat 09-Mar-19 20:33:58

Brexit funder Arron Banks ignored campaign suspension after Jo Cox’s murder

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ERabHc68k

This video is utterly shocking

varian Mon 11-Mar-19 10:03:01

Senior Conservative MPs have told Theresa May that her position will be untenable if parliament forces her to extend the Article 50 process this week.

In a series of meetings with government whips, Brexiteer Tories have warned Downing Street that the prime minister will face renewed pressure to quit if she is made to ask for extra time from Brussels. Others have suggested that they would be prepared to compromise and back her deal if she wins limited concessions but only if she states her intention to go as soon as the deal is signed. A former cabinet minister said that Mrs May would find it “very difficult” to stay in office if parliament forced an extension on her.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d236085c-437d-11e9-924d-9729bcd51a7f

Yet again the Moggite "party within a party" that calls itself (laughably) the "Europrean Research Group" is calling the shots, making ridiculous demands and expecting Theresa May to jump to its tune. It is her efforts to placate these extremists that has got her, her government and the country into this appalling mess.

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 15:37:32

i see a nice orderly no deal WTO Brexit, the only true 100% out , Leave.

I can't imagine any cliff edge...

Ginny42 Tue 12-Mar-19 15:54:33

Watch where you're walking then Andy.

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 16:08:52

i will keep my eyes peeled.

especially after we exit EU on no deal into WTO.

grin
grin
party

varian Tue 12-Mar-19 18:20:29

If we exit, let's all hope that we don't . Most British people want to remain in the EU.

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 18:44:13

the majority of voters voted leave so that is democracy and so obvious. we had a referendum ....

i adore democracy and majority, great easy words to understand

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 18:44:37

we must leave 29 March it is in law, thank heavens

trisher Tue 12-Mar-19 18:50:54

Andy no we musn't. Haven't you heard? Laws can be changed. We used to transport people to Australia because it was the law, but it was changed.

janipat Tue 12-Mar-19 19:09:15

Andy, do you ever take your fingers out of your ears long enough to hear, let alone understand, the reasons a no deal exit would be disastrous? I always picture you, fingers in ears shouting "nah nah nah, can't hear you"
A small majority voted leave with absolutely no information of what the reality would be. At the very least we must be allowed a vote on the final deal offered.

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 19:56:13

the majority voted leave, that's enough.

loving the democratic UK

Fabulosity

a great WTO and no deal from the ghastly EU

andycameron69 Tue 12-Mar-19 19:56:58

majority=democracy

celebrate

varian Tue 12-Mar-19 19:58:37

Are you sure? Let,'s ask the British people.