Younger people’s views beyond March 2019.

MaisieD - this is why I worry about another Referendum. The lies will be worse and there'll be more of them. Leavers seem to think Project Fear masquerading as the truth is OK for them but not for the Remain side! Such hypocrisy!
It's pointless for Theresa May to beg all her MPs to put their personal preferences aside and compromise- the ERG types are never going to do that so why should anyone else?

I care very deeply about the future for grandchildren.
Thinking of the future for generations to come has influenced my vote since I left University and started teaching.
How many of you have opposed the Nuclear Power Station at Hinckley Point C, for example?
At 16 most children do not have a deep enough knowledge of politics and current events to be able to make a decision that is free from influence of personalities and clever talk from Politicians. Neither do most adults.
Take your pick. Let the children of 16 who care have their vote.

Neither would I.

There is a general consensus of young people who do not like the EU and are very happy with the referendum result. It is absolutely ridiculous to adjust a system of democracy as a form of catch-up. The referendum has taken place and the decision was to EXIT the EU. Lets get on with it and stop all this contempt for democracy.

Wonder why you have to 18 or over to legally be an adult? Even after that until I think early 20s the Courts still give protection from not being identified due to age. If 16 year olds want to vote, remember still classed as a child, then they should also be prepared to face up to any wrong doing they are involved in. Can't be a responsible, analytical voting adult and a child at the same time in my reckoning. Scotland does allow 16 year olds to vote in all but general elections. That is once they have it all explained to them in school, so much for independent thinking!. This was seen as a political move by the SNP more than anything else to get the 16-18 year olds to vote for the party. Not that that age group is easy to influence! As for Brexit, 16 year old to vote, NO from me. They haven't had much experience of life other than what they know so how can they judge what is good or bad for a whole country. As for making plans for Uni, how many if them change courses, don't use their degree for anything relative to their studies or even finish the course.

Good post 4allweknow ??
We all know why the SNP allowed 16 year olds to vote, and even with that weighted in their favour, Scotland still rejected Independence.
I certainly wouldn’t give up my vote for any 16 year old.

You can go to university at sixteen, join the army at sixteen, and get married at sixteen. I think sixteen year olds should have a vote, and anyone over sixteen who is not a lunatic, Member of the House of Lords, or both.

I also think that everyone over sixteen living and working in the UK should have a vote, not just those who are citizens of the UK or Ireland. What happened to "no taxation without representation"?

so you think teaching in schools about voting and elections an dthe differences between parties/ideologies is wrong? How very strange ,I believe that ALL school age young people should be taught about politics...after all it affects every aspect of their lives and always will .

No, I don't think that Paddyann but I do think that the SNP have to examine their own record, not just of the teaching of politics and citizenship, but also history in Scottish schools. I've heard of a fourteen year old in a Scottish school who was being taught about the Highland clearances for the FOURTH time since she started school!

When you think about 16 yr olds (and 17/18/19 yr olds) voting, remember the words of the ISIS bride who wants to come back here with her child.
She said she was a silly immature girl who 'wanted to help in Syria'.
Many of the perpetrators of knife crime and drug distribution are teens who have ZERO interest in politics and no moral compass as regards society with which to make an informed opinion when voting.
It's a pity that awful people like that are allowed to vote.

It is a pity that awful people like some of the ignorant morons who voted leave because "these foreigners didn't vote for us in the Eurovision Song Contest" or because they didn't like black or brown people and wanted them "all sent back home" were allowed to vote.

Many sixteen year olds woyuld be much better informed and should be allowed to vote.

Better informed? Hahahahaha.... ??????
I never heard such tripe.

As for the infinitesimal number (.000000000000001%) who might, just might have said, "these foreigners didn't vote for us in the Eurovision Song Contest" or because they didn't like black or brown people and wanted them "all sent back home", as per your assertion, that is too far fetched to be credited with any credence.

Varian
ignorant morons
Sending it right back to you

Poor grasp of numeracy is another leaver trait.

A second vote for what has already been a democratic decision would just show how ridiculous are government has been over brexit.. what then..a third so we can have "best of 3"? Actually maybe that's a good idea..then when half the population don't like the result of the next general election we can just keep on having them until we do!.. ??

Ask any leave voter exactly which deal they voted for.

Retired65 Thankyou so much for that information... now THAT'S what should have been put out BEFORE the referendum.. scary stuff indeed...

I'm a Leaver Varian ...I'm of an age to have known life outside the EU too... I voted to take back control of our country from a completely inadequate and greedy group of strangers... I did not vote to leave Europe..I'm not racist, thick, inumerate, or a moron.. and I don't insult the people who wished to stay under EU rule and don't mind if some fat cat in another country makes the rules for them. I knew exactly when people were lying, but decided long long before that ... Corbyn for one... everyone conveniently forgets when he lied to all the students he would banish tuition fees to get them to vote for for him ... and for those who say we won't be here long so leave it to the youngsters... well I voted the right way for my children and grandchildren, so they will have some semblance of life that is not swallowed up by rules from a faraway land, and all those young men who died for that independence didn't die in vain... if anyone is still in doubt, they need to read Cakebaker's post on the Lisbon treaty.. that's what the remainers have voted for, and I don't think it could get any worse.

Apologies... the Lisbon Treaty post was by *Retired65".. ?

Toots well said ??

Retired65 Thankyou so much for that information... now THAT'S what should have been put out BEFORE the referendum.. scary stuff indeed...

But it's all LIES, toots. Read the Lisbon Treaty (I've posted a link to it)

Scary indeed that people are prepared to believe a load of lies coming from a completely unknown source (note that the person to whom it is attributed didn't write it ) and disseminated on social media.

Why individuals like GabriellaG54 resort to sarcasm and being bitchy, reminds me of school bullies and those who are abusive having had the benefit of a far better education. Unfortunately, mine was interrupted when we got blitzed and I became one of many evacuees. At least I did learn good manners.

Far better educated people than me have the belief that everyone is created equal and that we all have the same chance to succeed in life, those beliefs are however, fundamentally flawed. The truth is that we are not all created equal in our ability to achieve success. Every person has a unique set of strengths, which can aid in achieving the success they desire. Conversely, each person also has their own unique set of challenges that inhibit them in achieving such success. I am dyslexic and unfortunately having grown up in the early 40’s and being war time I did not obtain the level of education I really desired,nor the support by my school in recognising the reasons for my poor reading and struggles with grammar.

What makes me angry today is when it comes to the written word and naturally the errors that often creep into your written comments, you receive abusive and harmful comments that border on bullying.

Unfortunately, I recognise such behaviour is becoming far more common on Gransnet.
There are far too many individuals who adopt a very superior attitude and ridicule less educated people and that to me is appalling and not in the best ethos of Gransnet.

I shall in the next few days consider whether I should ignore the sarcasm and abuse from the likes of GabriellaG54 or simply never use the gransnet web site again to express a point of view.
Bye