Shemima Begum

soda pop, I was being ironic! Do you really think they pitch up talking Arabic with a dodgy passport?

EV, why do you persist in using this term " their own" Can you not get your head around the fact that the people you speak of are British? Yes British. They are not white anglosaxon but they are British.

Funny how its 300 ,are you sure it's not 229 or 306?

Regardless of the level of sympathy one does or does not have for Shamina, the baby was only days old and is in no way responsible for the circumstances in which he came into the world.

This tiny lad was not the only baby to lose his life in the camps that day, either.

I would hope, if anything positive at all is to come from this, that some real attention is paid to the conditions in the camps and how dangerous they are for the youngest and most vulnerable.

Lily65...this girl was born in Britain and has had all the benefits of being a British citizen, yet she chose, yes chose, to go to the Middle East to join an organisation which is the declared enemy of the West, quite apart from the terrible atrocities they have committed. I think that shows clearly where her true affinity lies. This applies to others who have been born and raised in European countries, not just ours, who commit acts of terrorism against the countries which have given them so much.

And are British children who are groomed into sex gangs "showing where their affinity lies" too?

The grooming process is the same whether its sex, violence, drugs or extremism.

It feeds on society leaving children behind, making them susceptible to the promise of finally belonging.

Rosie, cast your mind back to your 14th year. Did you do stupid things? Did you make unwise choices?

If you mug up on your history you will realise out beloved country invaded and trashed theirs , then invited the here to do our dirty work. So as for giving them so much......er no.

I agree with RosieLeah and it's also an incredible insult to all those who have lost their lives fighting against terrorists. What about the British soldiers, sailors and airmen/women who have lost their lives fighting FOR their country, whilst this stupid girl has committed treason against hers? I am very sorry that she has lost 3 children, that must be terrible, but she doesn't seem very sorry about those poor men who had their heads cut off by ISIS, does she? Why should she be let back in when there are mothers still mourning their brave, dead children, some of whom were younger than she is now?

Do you honestly think the world is neatly divided up into goodies and baddies?

What about the SYRIANS who have lost their lives to British terrorists hmm? Its a bloody insult to wash our hands and make OUR terrorists their on going problem

notanan2 a lot of the responses on this thread reminded me of the response to the Rochdale girls that they were prostitutes, and their sex workers reply that there can be no child prostitutes. No doubt some of those posting on this thread would have found many of those girls unpalatable. They were undoubtedly abusive, drinkers and drug users and only one of them could be used in the court case because of the damage that had been done to them.and ow they would come over in court. That SB is in a similar situation and is being judged as they were shows how little understanding we still have of child abuse.

exactly trisher- the Rochdale girls also came to mind.

Well Trisher , are you one of the many who think that the voting age should be 16...eh?
A child, when she and two others stole family jewellery to pay for flights, something she must have known to be wrong but, a few short months later, adult enough to vote in UK elections had your wishes been realised and, had she been living here.
She applied to marry a 'fighter' when she arrived. To say that she went there to alleviate suffering in hospitals tending to ISIS fighters, is simply ridiculous.
A supposed 'A' student, she was fully aware of what she, along with two other girls was doing and why.
The loss of babies is regrettable but, if one lost one then two babies due to 'malnutrition', who then would then go on to have a third?

sick

GG4. Had to pop back on this thread just to ask you where the girl would be able to access contraception in a camp? Assuming she was allowed to of course.

I was just about to post the same GillT57

M0nica

I did NOT say that I thought that pubs and street corners were places where online grooming takes place.
What I did infer is that she was then a child/young woman (take your pick) who did not meet people in the way we in the West might meet.
It begs the question, 'How did she have apparently unfettered access to online sites promoting terrorist activities/life, in the country she and two others decided to run away to?'

"we in the West" what? My white middle class son met his partner on line.

GillT57

My name is GabriellaG54.
How about spending a nanosecond more and getting it right...eh?

There are more ways of not getting pregnant than contraceptives. I would have thought that most GNers knew that fact.
You weren't off the thread for long, but kept looking and just had to pop back and have another 2 penn'orth. ?

There are now ridiculous posts on this thread saying that Britain deserves payback and we can’t be surprised.
Do these same people realise that IS /Daesh are not interested in real or imagined revenge, that their only aim
( fantasy) is a Caliphate of like minded hate filled Muslims.
Did the teenagers in Manchester deserve bombing?
Did the French people enjoying a market deserve it?
Did the bombings/shootings of people in Nigeria and Kenya
Deserve it? IS members target anyone and any country in their mad ideology of how the world should be.
Fortunately their days are numbered, they only did so well in the chaos of Syria and are being driven to ground in Afghanistan and Iraq as well.They will never go away of course but will never be a force to be reckoned with either.

Does Syria deserve to be stuck with British terrorists who have killed many of their nationals.

To day that it is UNSURPRISING that many (not just IS) grow angry, resentful towards us when we dump OUR problems like this, is not the same as saying that anyons deserves to be hurt or killed, and those who try to imply it is? I can only imagine are doing so to deflect from pondering some uncomfortable truths

Lily65
I wrote nothing about meeting 'partners' in pubs.
I wrote that pubs and clubs etc are places/social settings (obviously, among others) where we, in Western society, meet other individuals.
I met my OH via a dating site and I was not 'talking' about SB's meeting partners in such a manner.
It's best to read, learn and inwardly digest was is written, before replying.

To "say".

BRITISH TERRORISTS are terrorising Syria. Who else should take responsibility for them? Really, who?

*Daesh are not interested in real or imagined revenge, that their only aim
( fantasy) is a Caliphate of like minded hate filled Muslims.*

Wouldnt be so easy to feed that hate in new/potential members if we hadnt behaved so awfully on the international stage. The washing hands of OUR own criminals and terrorists and dumping the problem on someone elses doorstep, historically and today is one of many examples

...and Lily65, what a comment.
'White, middle class son'.
Equality?
No no no. He is not only white but middle class.
It just goes to show that with attitudes like yours, dreams of equality and a classless society are dead in the water.