Misreading the country?

May is now a leader in name only. Lino.

The rest of the party have certainly walked all over her!

Urmstongran summed it up perfectly

Urmstongran - as witty as ever and sums up the situation perfectly.

Yes I read that Annie and it is not the case anymore.

How many times has it got to pointed out to some? The Labour party are not the party of government and has not been since 2010.

It was David Cameron that went to the palace in 2014 and accepted the Queen's invitation to form a government. Theresa May then accepted the same invitation in 2016 and again in 2017. Therefore all the problems of Brexit and much else are entirely the makings of the Conservative party. No other party has been involved just the Tory party.

However, we now seem to have within this government cabinet ministers who do not believe in "collective responsibility" and just wish to purvey their own self serving agenda, but at the same time keep their ministerial salaries.

What a shambles of a government.

He has changed his mind again Anja ?

Misreading and Misleading the country, like many of you I'm totally confused. As regards Brexit we know that leaving the EU is likely to be harmful to the economy. Few of us whichever way we voted in 2016 can honestly say we really understood what we were voting for.

Since then we learnt a lot more now understand it better. Brits living in the EU were denied a vote despite being more affected than most. That cannot have been right.

Of the 44 million who were eligible to vote, only 17 million voted to leave, 15 millions to remain and 11 million did not vote for many reasons. Both Vote Leave the Remain in the EU were economical with the truth. Project fear has been shown to be less untruthful than leave.eu. There is overwhelming evidence of both criminality and foreign interference in the referendum.

The Government has done its utmost to bully, bribe to force its will on parliament. A hard Brexit is too damaging and the soft one being put forward is not what was voted for.

The makeup of the electorate has changed since 2016. About 2 million mainly older voters have passed away and about the same of young voter are now able to vote. In the colder light of a foggy the result of a People's Vote could well be very different. If Brexit is so good why is James dyson moving to Singapore, Nigel Farage applying for a German passport, Honda closing down and Jacob Rees Mogg moving part of his business to Dublin.

We need another referendum to choose between TM's deal and remain in the EU, that result to be binding.

The Labour party are not the party of government and has not been since 2010.

And why would that be, I wonder?
Could it have anything to do with various leaders or the fact that they have been taken over by an unelected group of people the motives of which makes many suspicious?

When they get back on track with new people at the top they will win again.

out we go

legally wto no deal to leave

how fabulous.

it is the law


good times

9 years since the last labour government, the wilderness years comes to mind

Well, Aniebach, had the Labour party remained in power we would certainly not have had this Brexit crisis which is causing more division and damage within this nation than any other issue has done in modern history.

The economic damage is as yet unknown.

all will be fine

WTO out we go

no problem, fabulous prosperity

and well Labour are not in power

With Corbyn/Momentum/Unite in power !

Well it’s about time the Conservatives did what they promised in their manifesto.We did vote to leave the EU & it was a majority wheather it was large or small.....a majority is a majority.I somehow think that lots of the Mp’s will lose their jobs because many are in areas that voted to leave so they are going against the will of their constituents.I personally feel that we have been betrayed by our government & think many people feel the same.

Definitely WTO!!

agree nannie good post thank you

The majority of countries in the world trade under WTO regulations so - shock, horror- it isn't a new idea or a cliff edge and the system works perfectly well. When we first joined the Common Market, prices increased but no one said that we crashed in!!!

Ken Clark was on tv this morning saying it could take at least 4 years to negotiate a trade deal with the EU and that would happen under Mrs May's transitional period if it's eventually voted for. That's ridiculous as the UK already follows all the rules and regulations the EU decides. The EU, out of spite, because a nation dares to want its independence is determined to try and make us fail in the future and want to keep us in their clutches for as long as possible. It's all about wanting our contributions to continue ad finitum, so they can waste most of it on vanity projects and EU salaries and pensions.

UK cannot simply trade on WTO terms after no-deal Brexit, say experts

The UK will be unable to have frictionless, tariff-free trade under World Trade Organization rules for up to seven years in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to two leading European Union law specialists.

The ensuing chaos could double food prices and plunge Britain into a recession that could last up to 30 years, claim the lawyers who acted for Gina Miller in the historic case that forced the government to seek parliament’s approval to leave the EU.

It has been claimed that the UK could simply move to WTO terms if there is no deal with the EU. But Anneli Howard, a specialist in EU and competition law at Monckton Chambers and a member of the bar’s Brexit working group, believes this isn’t true.

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“No deal means leaving with nothing,” she said. “The anticipated recession will be worse than the 1930s, let alone 2008. It is impossible to say how long it would go on for. Some economists say 10 years, others say the effects could be felt for 20 or even 30 years: even ardent Brexiters agree it could be decades.”

The government’s own statistics have estimated that under the worst case no-deal scenario, GDP would be 10.7% lower than if the UK stays in the EU, in 15 years.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/27/uk-cannot-simply-trade-on-wto-terms-after-no-deal-brexit-say-experts

wto is perfectly great . no problems

out we go, right out

I want Article 50 revoked and us return to being members of the EU ...
and the sooner the better...

I am a remainer, but even I got the idea that brexit would mean breaking out of the customs union and going onto WTO rules. I don't know why the politicians seem so convinced that all the brexit voters were against no deal.

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I agree okimherenow, but the UK is still an EU member state and if we don't leave the EU we need not apply to return.

If the brexit nonsense is not stopped we would only be able to rejoin on far less advantageous terms than the ones we have - not in the euro, nor in Schengen and benefiting from a rebate, so let's just agree to stay.

not scarey....lol

just excited to leave evil EU, and prosper

vote irrelevant as non binding. I like to understand simple concepts

Leave campaigner Daniel Hannan said quite clearly during the campaign "Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market"