The Second World War and Great Britain - we were not alone

This where an "edit" facility would be most useful so that you could have added your comment that it wasn't you who had written that but was quoting.

For all those who say the Leave campaign has never used WW2 in their campaigning- well the leader certainly has
LONDON (Reuters) - When Nigel Farage rolls into town in a purple double-decker bus to campaign for Britain to leave the EU, the music blaring from the loudspeakers is from the classic World War Two movie “The Great Escape”
Apparently he often began his speeches with -that's what we need another Great Escape..

More evidence

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oh it just took longer!!!!

Mr Francois' father Reginald was an engineer who served in the Royal Navy during the Second World War
As was mine - but I never heard my DF utter such words and nor would I myself.

@ Jura - I see your point now. But if you're going to copy and paste you need to put quote marks and givr the source of the quote.
In fact you might have seen a post from me on another forum where I said a taxi driver here on Tyneside told me he voted leave because "we managed in WW2 and we can manage now".
This man was only about 50.

It wasn't obvious to me that the OP was a quotation. I am not all that familiar with who's who on GN so I would have no reason not to think the OP hasn't been an army officer. A new member of GN would have no reason at all to doubt it.

It's rather disingenuous to make such a post then say it has been clarified 20 minutes later.

That's it discuss the niceties of if something should be posted as a quote or not. Anything to avoid the real question which is has the Leave campaign presented what happened in WW2 wrongly in order to promote their message? To which the only answer is "Yes they have".

Trisher it is. important to attribute copy correctly.
We need to know if words & opinions are those of a poster or of someone else. It can make a difference how you respond to a post.
How would you like it if someone lifted one of your posts and copied it onto another forum without any acknowledgement?

janeainsworth of course it is, however it is not necessary to continue to discuss and post about this once the facts have been established and things explained.
If one of my posts was being used to make a point I don't think I'd mind.
But once again a refusal to discuss the substance of the post (which is irrefutable). Much better to focus on the minutae.

Oh, have I been reprimanded by the GN police? A first for me!

The OP didn't ask a question or offer an opinion, so one could interpret the list as one wishes.

And the substance of the post was?
I suppose it was about one group of pro brexit people who recall the stoicism of British people during WW2, and their independent spirit. But it took a lot of digging in the quote to find that out.
There was a good article in yesterday's Guardian, an interview with James O'Brien, and he made that point. though he didn't say it happened because of deliberate persuasion by leading brexiteers.

The person who wrote the post was asked first, of course, if copying was ok.

Fennel I suppose if you only read the first paragraph it is. The second paragraph is pretty clear.
An interpretation would have been welcome SueDonim. I didn't see any.

Well thats it! If we don`t get proper brexit then I am voting commie corbyn in

There used to be a trio of posters on GN ( no longer with us)
Who insisted that any source at all was admitted and attributed ( which may well have been the only time I ever agreed with any of them?)
Stating your source before typing out the text means there are no confused posters.

How would you like it if someone lifted one of your posts and copied it onto another forum without any acknowledgement?
It is plagiarism.

Unless one asks and the author agrees, which jura says she did, but acknowledging the author when copying someone else's words is surely essential - or at least good manners to the author and to the readers of the copy?

I have been asked a couple of times (in a rather peremptory way) to name my source! which I now try to do.

Well, I’m a bit nonplussed. Jura (and a couple of others) said this wasn’t the place to comment on Swiss involvement in WW2 so I refrained.

But now he/she (I don’t know which) “demands” a reply from me. If I post the facts I’m damned and if I don’t it looks as if I just made it all up.

Just a couple then.

Over 100 allied aircraft were shot down by the Swiss killing 36 airmen. Those who survived were interned in a camp run by a pro-Nazi. Commander, Wauwilmoos. Their treatment was so bad that the USA threatened reprisals if it did no improve.

Enough? Or more about those who died in the amps and in the years following their release?

The ‘substance’ of the post has already been discussed by all on here, and many feel the same way about it!
Quoting sources is not ‘whataboutery’ as you seem to be implying trisher.

X post lemongrove

But once again a refusal to discuss the substance of the post (which is irrefutable).
All of which most of us knew anyway and may well have had personal experience of the losses incurred.

I would say this is the perfect place for your facts Eglantine ( nice name btw.)
I didn’t know about that, very shocking.

Eglantine - this?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauwilermoos_internment_camp

I posted this earlier but will re-post it as it could be helpful to anyone who is interested in history:
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