The priest at Lyras funeral

I thought there was firstly the issue about the Irish Language. Secondly I thought the issue about same sex marriage was actually more than just disagreement about that but about how the DUP prevented it being enacted so a constitutional matter in fact. But there’s also the issue of the original issue that led to MM resigning and AF refusing to stand down while the investigation into that issue was carried out.

It was and I think continues to be a dispute about the Green energy scheme and Arlene Foster's involvement in it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_Heat_Incentive_scandal
Sinn fein wanted her to resign which she has consistently refused to do although other DUP members have blamed her and it seems she was at best incompetent and at worse guilty of fraud,

Given how badly she behaved over that and the way she stopped the same sex marriage legislation, imo SF are right not to go back without some cast iron promises. Who would trust her or any of her henchmen. In some ways I could laugh - the DUP wanting to be fully part of the UK except of course when it comes to gay people and women. Bloody hypocrites.

Still don't think her sexuality need be discussed on a thread about her funeral.

What the hell?
At EVERY funeral I have been to there have been talk of who the deceased loved, and chose to have in their life.

If it is not relevant at your funeral when is it!

Of COURSE the hypocracy of the preeching will have been acutely felt by those who relate to being gay in that kind of environment.

Yes of course, the Irish Language Act. We really should have one. Wales and Scotland do. (Although my friend and I tried a U3A class and found it the most difficult language we had ever attempted to learn!)
But we need to get on with day to day stuff whilst all these things are negotiated. Things like long waiting times for hospital appointments and ops and shortage of GPs education....
Nothing is important enough to shut down government. That is not caring for those who voted for you.

Oh and here we go again. People only wanting to see one side and being rude talking about henchmen.

The DUP we see over here behave and look like henchmen. They are bigoted misogynistic homophobic hardliners who sold themselves to May and have helped wreak havoc on the UK and I’ll say what I wish about them because they don’t just impact on NI and a RoI but on E, W and S. Talk about democracy? Pathetic

The DUP some see over here .

annepl if soomeone is asked to resign and refuses, if a vote of no-confidence in them then passes who is responsible for the resulting chaos? The only reason Arlene Foster was able to remain in office was that she used legilaion designed to prevent politicians becoming involved in paramilitary activities. In other words she is operating undemocratically.
The Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP), Ulster Unionist Party (UUP), Alliance Party, People Before Profit (PBP), Traditional Unionist Voice (TUV), and the Green Party signed a ministerial exclusion motion under Section 30 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998, which would formally remove Foster from office.[22] Although the opposition had a majority in the subsequent motion of no confidence, the motion did not pass because of Stormont's cross-community procedures.[23] This section was intended for removing politicians from office if they became involved in paramilitary activities.

Well you share their views ab so no surprise you like them

"What the hell notanan? Here's "what the hell".

Of course it would be said at at anyone's funeral how much they loved their wife/husband/partner, and how important they were to the deceased. And how much the partner left behind will miss him/her. But I really don't think sexuality as such would be discussed. That is usually acknowledged to be a private matter between two people.

So pleased don't be quite so aggressive about nothing at all.

I did not say I share their views maryeliza , I don’t know their views anymore than some in NI know the views of Plaid Cymru.

There was no hypocrisy in the sermon. Gayness wasn't discussed. Of course.

What hypocrisy in the service please ?

The hypocracy of preaching about how others should behave. When they behave so badly to people like Lyra themselves.

That is usually acknowledged to be a private matter between two people.

Its not a private matter at funeral of a straight person though. Its pretty openly talked about.

She was gay. It was part of her life, a big part. Glossing over it does her a disservice.

That doesn't make sense. You are saying that because the church in NI is hard on gay people, the country has no right to be properly governed in all areas.

I have never been to a funeral where sex was mentioned. How does it go? "Oh yes, they loved having it off three times a week". "He was a right bugger for not using a condom". " She was a bit of a nympho on the quiet you know".

Mind boggles.

Are you saying her partner was shut out from the funeral? Made to sit in a corner at the back? Did the priest not shake her hand on the way out? Give her some words of comfort?

Really?

Just where was this "glossing over"?

Sexuality doesnt = sex acts.

Straight peoples sexuality is discussed as the default. Its not seen as a "private matter" until you discuss someone who deviates from the default, and then suddenly its uncouth to mention it.. . Why skip over a major part of someones life? It would like me dying and the fact that Im a mother not mentioned at my funeral just because the actual act of birth is usually done in private!

That doesn't make sense. You are saying that because the church in NI is hard on gay people, the country has no right to be properly governed in all areas.

I am saying that it is repulsive for the RC church to present itself or any of its representatives as any sort of moral compass in NI

Gonegirl To pretend that someone attending a funeral and having their hand shaken is an acknowledgement of their relationship is just plain ridiculous. In the past when homosexuality was illegal partners would attend and be called "good friends" or "companions" now most are able to take their rightful place but that doesn't mean that everyone who shakes their hands and mutters words of consolation acknowedges or accepts their real position.

They need a government. Stormont has been empty quite long enough.

I think a partner of the deceased would get a meaningful message as well as a hand hold.

Did the priest not shake her hand on the way out? Give her some words of comfort?

Thats big of him
Still considers their relationship "lesser" than others by only marrying MF couples though doesnt he?