Tommy Robinson

You admitted yourself Joel that you knew nothing really about him at the start of this thread. Do not assume that your lack of knowledge is shared. I have been aware and well informed about him for years as have many others on this thread. On the basis of a whole plethora of facts over the years I have a well informed view of him that is not based on prejudice. I am not a ‘racist warrior’ whatever that means. Where is your evidence when you say that posters are expressing disdain without understanding why they should because others do. Have you any idea how patronising that sounds? My opinion that he is a vile racist thug is 100% correct and then some - I hope very much he’ll soon be off our streets for a while. And by the way, the accusation he posted about the Syrian refugee boy - he has admitted already that he was ‘duped’ by someone posting false information on Facebook which he then repeated without checking - just like one of the posters on here who funnily enough hasn’t been back to me on that.

suziewoozie
My current research shows that he is not racist he and his former allegiance (the EDL), are anti Islam (academic papers included); He and they have issues with the failure to assimilate and radical ideology of some. They are keen to show that other ethnicities, cultures and religions have assimilated. Whether he or they are right or wrong is debatable along with wether or not it should be addressed. I suppose those who live in the parallel communities have more insight.
Calling him an Islamaphobe is more appropriate than vile racist.

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Lessismore
Ha ha not funny ?
Another one who resorts to personal jibes rather than participating in reasoned debate.

suziewoozie if you are referring to me I answered your queries.

Being Islamophobe, or antisemitic- is racist, by definition.

But is it, jura? Islam isn't a 'race'.

Not that antiIslamism is any less wrong than antisemitism. They are both hateful.

I do believe a shift has taken place:

'According to Hall, there is a new type of racism — “cultural racism,” which is my focus here. Racism is no longer about race (skin color) but culture. People are Othered and discriminated against not (simply) because of the color of their skin (or other phenotypes) but because of their beliefs and practices associated with some “imagined culture.”

Cultural racism, therefore, happens when certain people perceive their beliefs and customs as being culturally superior to the beliefs and customs of other groups of people. Cultural racism, in-turn, reproduces the idea of “the hierarchy of cultures,” meaning, in the context of current affairs, that “our” Western culture is superior to “their” Islamic culture. This way of thinking is problematic because it essentializes diverse classifications like “Westerners” and “Muslims.” It creates a binary of “Western = civilized” and “Islamic = uncivilized.”'

www.huffpost.com/entry/muslims-are-not-a-race_b_8591660?guccounter=1

jura that is a good post. It explains it really well.

I have no truck with Robinson either, but Piers Stefan O'Meara pulling him up over changing his name is just priceless! What a hypocrite.
And typical of Piers Morgan O'Meara

Jura2
Islam is a religion not a race so the termracistcannot be used. Many races are Muslim even white caucasians.

GrannyGravy - I didn’t see your response re her Wiki Page or blue tick Twitter address or if the image you posted was one you took yourself from an original. It’s beyond any question that the Twitter account was fake and her Wiki Page ( which I linked to) was nothing like the image you posted. I’m surprised that you ever thought she would post a tweet like that - I take it you know her work?

The Jewish Chronicle thinks he’s a racist - probably because he is

www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/manchester-jewish-representative-council-condemns-openly-racist-tommy-robinson-1.484699

Alright susiewoozie. It was a simple mistake. Leave off now.

What was a simple mistake Gonegirl? I don’t think posting supposed information on here more than once without engaging brain first is a simple mistake. I think it’s utterly bonkers. We should be more careful.

Grannygravy didn't realise the tweet was a hoax. (Some of us aren't so young as some on here these days)

With apologies to Grannygravy!

I don't know how old she is. In fact, I'll shut up now.

Gonegirl ????

suziewoozie I took the screenshot this morning, as far as I am aware “a blue tick” is the way you can tell whether or not an account is true or fake.

Tommy Robinson is a violent, abusive man with a number of criminal convictions.
Whether we are 'allowed' to call his verbal attacks and criticisms of Muslims racist or not, they are loathsome and unacceptable.
He's a trouble maker, dangerous and has no redeeming features.

Did you bother to read my post and link Joelsnan?

I did jura2 and found it very informative, thanks.

Yes thank you jura2
It appears racial profiles can be constructed to address any issue according to your article.
Could those discriminated against as a result of their sexuality now use cultural or social racism to express their situation as a minority suppressed group and If not, why not?
Similarly those who fat shame must be expressing racist views as their thin demeanour makes them (supposedly) superior to the more rotund.

Joel your posts seem to suggest complete ignorance of the Equalities Act and the protected characteristics therein.