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Johnson’s Government

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Jul-19 16:33:05

I can imagine we will be horror struck as next week plays out. The cabinet will be a sight to behold.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 09:07:03

Worth a read

waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/07/25/johnson-cabinet-a-whos-who-of-amoral-incompetent-bastards/

Shoequeen53 Fri 26-Jul-19 09:07:24

Mark Francois was an absolute embarrassment on Newsnight. He talked rubbish and his patronising attitude to Kirsty Wark just confirmed his misogyny, lest we be in any doubt after his assault of a female protester. This regime is appalling.

Lessismore Fri 26-Jul-19 09:11:47

Your idea of the 2 properties seems a good one UG. I can't for the life of me understand why you seem to embrace Europe for a second home and adore the divisive NF and BJ.

A home abroad for me would be about embracing the culture, learn the language, broaden horizons and so on.

jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 09:25:11

lemon 'The EU play a very long game though WWM2' ...

a game, really - this is NO game for sure. And NO, the EU has not been playing- they have stated, right from the start- that the Irish border is NOT, and never will be - up for discussion. There must be a border between the EU and non EU- and there can't be a border between Ireland and NI- to respect the Good Friday Agreement. It is quite simple - and of course massively complex. But a 'game' it is NOT.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 26-Jul-19 09:25:44

Urmstongran safe journey, you shouldn't have to explain your lifestyle choices on here.

Those people who voted leave, in my opinion voted against the corrupt money pit that is the EU, which sustains 2 parliaments costing millions of Euros, and is a gravy train for every MEP and employee!! including Nigel Farage and the Kinnock Family.

It doesn't mean that we dislike Europe, it's varied countries, people and cultures. The UK will always be part of Europe because of its Geographical position.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 09:33:25

Interesting that Johnson appears to be trying to avoid legislation re- the immigration issue.

I suspect his long term plan (and remember it will only be about Johnson and power) is actually to win 5 year term. I think he will go for that even at the expense of Brexit.

I wonder if the ERG will tumble this.

Lessismore Fri 26-Jul-19 09:33:47

I have serious misgivings about the waste of money involved in being part of the EU. I think many people do. It's just become so divisive and nasty now.

Smileless2012 Fri 26-Jul-19 09:41:55

Hope you have a lovely time in Spain Urmstongran and it isn't too hotsmile.

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 09:59:19

play a long game is a well-known idiom jura which means using a long-term strategy or goal to achieve an objective.

It does not refer to a game when used in this instance.

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 10:02:03

Nor does it infer playing as you thought.

The English language can be confusing when such phrases are used!

MaizieD Fri 26-Jul-19 10:12:38

Nice bit of thinly veiled xenophobia there, Callistomen

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 10:14:56

What spiteful posts, Laibak

Perhaps enlightening us with your presumably extensive knowledge would have been more useful.
Why should anyone know the activist is called Stephen Bray? Who is funding him btw? Someone or some organisation must be.

And there are other activists in evidence on both sides.

I presume you do mean that activist, not the hardworking businessman - or any other Stephen Bray for that matter?
It's a common enough name.

MawBroonsback Fri 26-Jul-19 10:16:18

To explain a cricketing metaphor is not necessarily xenophobic is it MaizieD ?
Any more than Corbyn’s remark about the English sense of humour. hmm In fact rather less so.

MaizieD Fri 26-Jul-19 10:19:07

It is when the poster who it is being 'explained' to is a constant target of attacks for being 'foreign', Maw

MawBroonsback Fri 26-Jul-19 10:20:31

Only if you say so.
Never been a cricket fan myself, but then I have only lived in England for 49 years.

lemongrove Fri 26-Jul-19 10:21:55

Regarding ‘playing the long game’ jura ( and anyone else who didn’t understand the meaning)it is a well known idiom
As Callistemon says, about strategy and nothing to do with playing or games.
Labaik a person can be interested in politics without knowing the name of an eccentric who shouts about Brexit in the streets night and day.

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 10:22:52

That was spiteful, too, MaizieD

Some of my family (and many friends) are European although not Swiss, MaizieD and do not always understand some of the nuances or idioms we use and ask to have them explained.
Good teachers of English to foreign students spend time teaching such idiomatic phrases so that the students can understand and chat more easily and not take these phrases literally.

MawBroonsback Fri 26-Jul-19 10:26:02

I had to Google Steve Bray and there were quite a few to choose from. Presumably Labaik means this person?

Steve Bray is an activist from Port Talbot in southern Wales, who makes daily protests against Brexit in College Green, Westminster. He is known as Mr. Stop Brexit. Wikipedia
Born: 26 June 1969 (age 50 years), Port Talbot
Known for: Protesting against Brexit

I hope they are keeping his job open for him in Port Talbot - or might he be surviving on benefits?
Heaven forfend he might have independent means

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 10:26:30

Have I ever attacked jura for being 'foreign' MaizieD?

No, because that would be "an own goal" (another idiom).

lemongrove Fri 26-Jul-19 10:27:48

Exactly Callistemon .....and it obviously did need explaining, nothing remotely xenophobic about your remark.

lemongrove Fri 26-Jul-19 10:28:45

Maw grin

Firecracker123 Fri 26-Jul-19 10:36:16

Have a lovely holiday Urmstongran you don't need to explain anything to anyone.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 10:42:28

If Johnson does go for no deal, I wonder what the consequences will be politically.

We all know what it will mean economically and socially.

Johnson has imposed a radical government on parliament that rejects consensus and cooperation. Not only is Labour and the Libs opposed, but also are large parts of the parliamentary Tories, and a third of the tiny membership.
All disenfranchised.
We ar3 now in recess, where Johnson can govern without accountability, but he has only about 6 weeks to enjoy this. He can’t hide from the fact of parliamentary numbers.

A no deal was never voted for.

Johnson’s disenfranchises the British public at his peril.

lemongrove Fri 26-Jul-19 10:48:07

However .....it wasn’t not voted for either.We were asked if we wanted to leave the EU.Not how.
Yes, a deal is preferable of course, but if it has to be no deal then we will deal with it, economically, socially.
Politically, who knows?

MaizieD Fri 26-Jul-19 11:06:39

Steve Bray is crowdfunded.

Like Tommy Robinson but he doesn't sniff his funding up his nose or buy big houses with it.

Now let's all have a hissy fit about it...