Johnson’s Government

I just think the Remainers are so very cross Annie and they are making the most noise! Us Leavers know it is going to happen so finally, we are pretty sanguine about it.

Brexit is doing so well???

In what way is it doing well?

how can something which at the moment is an idea " do well"

Going well? In what way?

Brexit is not doing well.

It has dominated everything in this country for the last three years, ignoring the growing number of people who could see through the leave liars propaganda.

The country has never been so divided. Billions of taxpayers money have been spent on this brexit nonsense rather than for the public good.

After three years the leavers have totally failed to come up with a version of brexit which they can agree on, let alone convince the rest of us.

Brexit is a disaster and should be stopped before any more damage is done.

Have you any ideas on what the remainers are so cross about, Urmstongran? Could it be that they believe not only that Brexit will be one of the worst things that have happened to the country, but also that the liars and cheats who instigated it for a laugh seem to be succeeding in achieving it and also gaining the highest position in the land and acclaim from across the pond?

Perhaps Annie referring to Fascist Farage's single member 'party', rather than any progress towards leaving the EU?

Well said varian. As you say a growing number of people have seen through the leave propaganda. Time for the Brexiteers to get on with it - that should be interesting!!! Following the business pages it's easy to see the direction of travel, huge increase in public borrowing this month, the £ tanking, slowing in the property market (not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it shows lack of confidence). I'm not sure what Utopia the leavers were hoping for, but it isn't going to happen. I voted Remain, mainly because I wasn't prepared to gamble my children and grandchildren's future.

Oops, lost a 'was' there, after Annie

Unfortunately when/if Boris Johnson takes over on the 24th July, he will immediately be embroiled in an extremely dangerous diplomatic situation with Iran.

Since the British Oil Tanker was "taken" last night, not one word from our so called "EU partners" offering solidarity.

President Trump spoke up and offered help immediately.

While the government is focussed on this nonsense, what is happening to all the everyday issues and the big worry.....security?
Yes, it's going really well.

not one word from our so called "EU partners" offering solidarity.

Better get used to it, GG13. This is the future you voted for..

I think that what leavers fail to grasp, is that if we brexit and in particular Brexit with a no deal our whole way of life will change, and change to perhaps a disastrous worse.

If we remain, the leave voter will not notice a single difference to their lives apart from not obtaining this wonderful world which they are sure exists somewhere, but which not a single one of them can give any detail or assurance.

It is a pretend world which this cult of delirium is driving them ever onwards with stars in their eyes.

After watching Panorama on catch up, I have consoled myself that if Johnson puts Davis and Raab into cabinet, it will be the shortest lived government ever, as none of them seem to have done a useful or constructive days work in their lives.

As this disaster unfolds and gets closer, all I read is about the adverse effects on the markets, jobs, industry, exports and nothing that will be to our benefit, absolutely nothing. If there is one thing worse than Britain leaving the EU it is leaving the EU with Johnson in charge.

MaizieD I will expect the UK to be ignored by the EU out of spite once we have left, and they will make it difficult so as to deter any other Country from leaving.

We haven’t left yet though!

I will expect the UK to be ignored by the EU out of spite once we have left,

Such a childish way of looking at International Relationships, GG13. Not 'spite'; just the we (well, some of us) have chosen that the UK leaves the club and becomes a third country. A trading rival etc. Vociferously asserting that we don't want any part in EU defence co-operation..

What on earth did you expect? That everything would stay the same?

Seems like any old mysogonistic, racist, thatch-topped wanker gets to lead a major Western nation these days without repercussion. Doesn't say much for civilisation

Wonderful quote just lifted from Mumsnet, sums it up perfectly I think. Thank you Mumsnet.

Since the British Oil Tanker was "taken" last night, not one word from our so-called "EU partners" offering solidarity.

I'm afraid I spluttered when I read that. What on earth do you expect? It is in the USA's interest to support us as they see us supporting Trump's machinations. You don't want to be a part of the EU - or have I misunderstood you GrannyGravy13. They, like us, and like the USA, will put themselves first.

We have threatened them; why would they rush to our aid. We have stopped negotiating in favour of threats.

Back to the government. The first two Johnson, if he wins, has to appoint are:

Chief Whip
Chancellor

The Chief Whip will advise on the rest of the reshuffle but the Chancellor is the key role.

At the same time, he has to think about what he does with J Hunt. This will depend on how Hunt has done in the vote of members. Balancing this is the calculation, based on Hunt's attacks on Boris, with how much he can be trusted.

I have seen Gavin Williamson suggested as Chief Whip. A master of revenge, it is also said he isn't keen to do the role again. Johnson needs someone who can talk to the hard-line Brexiteers but also the "former" Remainers.

He will have to take into account how slim his majority is - and that is before anyone else leaves the party. You would think this would incline him towards a broad cabinet but if he is going to attempt to move in a fast an furious way, perhaps not.

Now Amber Rudd has said she is willing to support no-deal she could be one of the women Johnson includes although unlikely to get one of the great offices of state. She may stay where she is.

Chancellor - Sajid Javid?
Chief Secretary to the Treasury Needs to be a Brexiteer if SJ is Chancellor.
Foreign Secretary - could Hunt keep this?
Defence - again he could choose to keep Penny Mordant there? It increases his quota of women.
Home Secretary - Andrea Leadsom's pay off?

He will also need to take account who has considered his "no-deal" threat a ploy and might resign if he attempts to carry it out.

Could it be a temporary cabinet and then an election? With such a small majority this could be seen as a necessity. With the Machiavellian Johnson, he could see it as his only way out.

Well, GGMk3 as you have so neatly illustrated, it has hardly begun. The crowning of Johnson is just the (expected) start of the horse trading and calling in of favours. It would be with most people, but I suspect Johnson is not loyal to friends or colleagues so there could be some disappointed people. It will be interesting to see what he gives to Gove for example, and Rees-Mogg. I feel quite ill at the prospect of this mish mash of careerists and chancers. I most certainly do not want a Corbyn government, but I secretly would like a GE, just for the sheer schadenfreude and joy of seeing some of these self serving individuals losing their seats, it would be worth it to wave goodbye to Gove, JRM, Leadsom, Patel, Duncan-Smith....well, a girl can dream eh?

It would be logical to keep JH on to deal with the Iran crisis since he is pretty familiar with what's happening.
Oh no, that wouldn't work, would it?
Someone doing the job who actually knows something about it? Can't have that!

There’s a photo in the Daily Mail on line of Philip Hammond loading his stuff into a waiting car. Bye bye.

Yes well, hopefully Hammond is on his way to talk to the other remain supporting ministers to try and stop this car crash heading our way. Maybe he is a decent man putting country before party before career, the complete opposite to the charlatans like Farage and Johnson, so adored by so many.