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So it's Boris

(528 Posts)
mallows Tue 23-Jul-19 12:31:03

I know we knew this would happen but it didn't stop my heart sinking when it was confirmed. It's not even about party politics. It's about him. The country is in such a terrible position and the thought of him being the one trying to solve all the problems is farcical at best and utterly depressing.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Jul-19 15:49:47

Day6 agreed ?????

Nico97 Tue 23-Jul-19 15:51:00

It was a cracking speech ! He showed more oomph in those few minutes than TM showed throughout her entire time as PM. Old Jezza will definitely be behind the eight ball now trying in vain to oppose grin

SirChenjin Tue 23-Jul-19 15:52:00

So to summarise Day - it could be worse, it could be Corbyn.

What a ringing endorsement for Johnson hmm.

The fact that we now have Corbyn on one side of the House and Boris on the other marks a very sad time for British politics.

POGS Tue 23-Jul-19 15:59:54

I'm more interested in his Cabinet selection to be honest.

POGS Tue 23-Jul-19 16:01:50

Meant to add.

I think there will be a General Election sooner rather than later and Labour will have to deare at long last whether it is a Remain or Leave Party, as with the Conservatives.

lemongrove Tue 23-Jul-19 16:02:50

Yes, I wonder who he will choose? Will Gove be in the Cabinet?

craftyone Tue 23-Jul-19 16:05:32

well said Nico97, the old fighting spirit is still there. Onwards and upwards

Day6 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:13:18

it could be worse, it could be Corbyn. What a ringing endorsement for Johnson hmm

OH BJ has his detractors, always has, but we must not forget that behind a rather bumbling, blustering facade lies a very intelligent man. He's not the greatest orator, that's certainly not his strength, but I think he is decisive and will go forward knowing what he has to do in a relatively very short space of time.

What we do need now is decisiveness. Johnson will have the knives coming at him from every angle. His Premiership is going to be extremely difficult.

However, what is more important is - we are going to see very clearly within the next three months if the HOC, our parliament, is going to bring us to stalemate again, and look out for themselves, rather than come together to get forward movement on Brexit. They all signed in agreement to leave the EU.

Now we will see what they are made of.

We could be seeing the end of the two party system of politics in Westminster if the HOC and Bercow (a complete disgrace) continue to block progress.

If Johnson fails, he'll take many, many political careers with him, from all parties, and rightly so.

GillT57 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:14:10

I am deeply concerned at the prospect of this idiotic man being PM, and could I point out to his slavish disciples that it is not just left wingers who are unhappy about his coronation,many lifetime Tories are too. Irrespective of my political beliefs and of my remain stance I still consider him unfit for the very responsible position he has finally won. I would feel the same even if we were not going through the catastrophe of Brexit.

Day6 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:19:16

could I point out to his slavish disciples

confused

What a strange description. So, if you support a party or leader you are slavish?

I don't see people falling at BJ's feet, he's not everyone's cup of tea, but I see almost cult worship for Marxist Corbyn amongst his young followers. hmm

lemongrove Tue 23-Jul-19 16:22:06

.....and not just the young ones either Day6

SirChenjin Tue 23-Jul-19 16:22:55

So the answer's yes Day.

I actually think you're being very generous to the man. I don't think he's decisive at all, and he's certainly not someone who commands respect. He played the fool for too long, and now it's coming back to haunt him. He's offended too many people and hasn't the influencing power to take them with him in a short space of time, so he will now have to try and force through an unworkable situation which will be voted down by Parliament. Not so intelligent really - unless your definition of intelligent is a low one, of course.

jura2 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:32:55

Just got home from a beautiful trip to Paris returning via beautiful sites in Burgundy - to find Boris is now in 'charge' - at a time when we could very well find ourselves at a disastrous war which we do not have the power to resist- isolated from the EU, at the mercy of Trump - and with the worst possible bumbling fool at the helm -

I cried. less than 0.5% of the population has decided the fate of this amazing country, and we were supposed to fight for Democracy and control sad The fate of Europe, and possibly the world sad Desperation - distraught - shame even. NOT IN MY NAME...

GillT57 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:36:23

day6 you need to get over your obsession with mentioning the dreadful Corbyn as the only alternative to Johnson. I think you will find the slavish devotion to Corbyn was short lived and many Labour voters find themselves facing the same dilemma as Tory voters who are appalled at the prospect of their party being headed by this fool

Nico97 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:43:42

Get a grip Jura and stop being so melodramatic.

SirChenjin Tue 23-Jul-19 16:44:08

Well said Jura

SirChenjin Tue 23-Jul-19 16:45:24

No grips needed here, and there's no melodrama. What a ridiculous attempt at an insult.

paddyann Tue 23-Jul-19 16:47:31

I really thought they were telling us Boris was on target to win so that when Hunt did win we'd all be pleased ..even though he's just as bad .Sadly not so .Life is very very strange sometimes.Who in their right mind would have ever thought BOJO was PM material?

Day6 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:56:54

day6 you need to get over your obsession with mentioning the dreadful Corbyn as the only alternative to Johnson

Do I? Because you said so?

Tough. It's deliberate. The left pound anyone not to their liking (ie: anyone not left wing and in love with Corbyn and co.)

Please allow me to mention that right now, in direct opposition to Johnson is the leader of the opposition in the HOC - one Jeremy Corbyn.

There are plenty who feel just as much antipathy towards JC and his happy band of Marxists as you and others feel for BJ.

It is a relevant comparison, and I have no qualms about reminding readers that today the left wing of British politics is more odious and extreme than the right.

grandtanteJE65 Tue 23-Jul-19 16:59:27

Ye gods and little fishes!

Yet another self-seeking politician.

SirChenjin Tue 23-Jul-19 17:03:11

In your opinion Day - only in your opinion. This particular reader doesn't need reminding of that - you voice it often enough on here and it has no influence on my thoughts.

I'll repeat what I said earlier - Corbyn on one side, BJ on the other marks a low point in UK politics. God help us all.

POGS Tue 23-Jul-19 17:09:36

Jura

"I cried. less than 0.5% of the population has decided the fate of this amazing country, and we were supposed to fight for Democracy and control sad"
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I will ask you as I did paddyanne on another thread who said similar:-

When Alex Salmond resigned over sexual misconduct allegations it was upto the SNP to replace him and Nicola Sturgeon took over.

When Tony Blair resigned the reigns were handed over to Gordon Brown as per Labour Party rules.

If Corbyn became Prime Minister and he resigned should there be a General Election?

When Theresa May resigned the world and his dog cries shouts of wrong doing/undemocratic move/should be a General Election.

Why is passing the reigns in one political party deemed perfectly acceptable but not for the Conservative Party?

The General Election votes in a political party not an individual!!

SirChenjin Tue 23-Jul-19 17:13:56

When Alex Salmond resigned over sexual misconduct allegations it was upto the SNP to replace him and Nicola Sturgeon took over

Sturgeon was leader way before AS resigned.

I don't think anyone is questionning the rights or wrongs of a leadership contest - this has far wider implications for the UK for many years to come than GB taking over from TB, for example, and that's what people are up in arms about. That, and the fact that BJ has been put in charge of this fiasco.

Anniebach Tue 23-Jul-19 17:15:15

When Harold Wilson resigned Callaghan became PM , no
general election

POGS Tue 23-Jul-19 17:17:48

"The fate of Europe, and possibly the world sad Desperation - distraught - shame even. NOT IN MY NAME..."
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Do you sincerely fear for your life in Switzerland because Johnson is now the PM of the UK?

You may not have used the words ' fear for your life' but I read your desperation/fear/distraught post as feeling that way.