So it's Boris

Have been out all day ( funeral) so just learned from GN that Boris won...oh dear oh dear. How can he fool so many people so much of the time? It’s beyond me.

No, I don't imagine you would maddy - it would be too much of a nightmare if all the worst predicated outcomes came to pass, wouldn't it.

Boris Johnson has been elected by the membership of the Conservative party to be its leader. Being that the Conservative Party are also the Party of Government at the present time, then Boris Johnson will also become Prime Minister of Britain. The foregoing transfer of office has occurred on many occasions in the past, as has been pointed out in several posts already in this thread.

However, what I find entirely reprehensible is to witness Tory Members of parliament resigning their positions and stating they will not work with this elected leader, while others openly state their ambitions to "bring him down as leader" as quickly as possible.

As stated, Johnson has been elected as leader by the Rank and File of the party, and yet we have these self-serving MPs placing themselves above that membership and the decision they have made, with an "I know better than these low born Grassroots members what needs to be in the party."

The above is disgusting, for it is exactly the same as to what has been carried out in the Parliamentary Labour Party for the last four years. Political Parties belong to their memberships, and ultimately what they decide when asked should be accepted by ALL in the party, or they should resign their membership, and in the case of MPs their seat in Parliament.

In the case of the Labour Party attempts to placate such people have failed over the entire period that Jeremy Corbyn has been leader. That has now brought the membership to the point where extensive de-selection is (hopefully) about to be carried out under new rules.

The Conservative grassroots membership could learn much from the Labour members experience I believe, and act much more quickly. For, what is at stake is fundamental democracy in these political parties, in our Parliament, and at the very basis of governance of this country.

Many people have significant concerns over having Boris Johnson as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom based on his past record. However, he must be given a chance in that office and criticised on what he actually carries out, or plans to carry out.

The above is democracy, and the upholding of that should be paramount to all who reside in this country.

Yea Lord, it’s nuclear war now!

Get a grip Jura.

SirChenin, I can only treat your ridiculous comment with the disdain it deserves.

Well said Day6, POGS, GranyGravy, for goodness sake, it’s a new leader of the Conservative Party, it’s not Armageddon.

maddyone- if you can't see that we are now engaged in a very very dangerous situation - where the UK finds itself having to request help from EU fleets and possibly Trump- then ...

jura can live where she likes, thinks what she likes and say what she likes I assume??

It's ok, everyone. Stop worrying.

President Trump has said that Boris is our Trump and we all love Trump over here!

Treat it in whatever way you want maddy, it's of no consequence to me.

Yes Jura, it’s a difficult and possibly dangerous situation, but I think you’re over egging the pudding when you speak of nuclear war! Iran don’t have nuclear weapons thankfully, and however ridiculous DT may be, he’s not going to push the nuclear button. Can you not see he’s all mouth and no trousers?

Kittylester, I’ve just returned from ‘over there’ and a great many people do indeed love Trump, not sure why myself, but there it is. No offence meant kitty as it appears he’s your president.

SirChenin,

Good.

MAGA and MUGA hats at the ready - what could possibly go wrong with Trump over there and BJ over here.

Well, lots actually, but let's not bother our pretty little heads with that.

Indeed maddy

Lessismore, yes she can.

Again, another hyperbolic comment from jura2 who thinks this country is so great she permanently resides in Switzerland! And bemoans the exchange rate of sterling now.
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I’m another who is glad Boris won. He is very popular (okay not so much on here but this isn’t Brexit H.Q.) he has great optimism, is clever, speaks very fluent French (enough to impress Macron not easy in itself!) and will be a great champion for the U.K.

17.4 million won't be fooled again. Boris has a few months to deliver Brexit and save the Tory party or The Brexit Party will trounce the lot.

Nigel Farage is our backstop.

Grandad 1943, thanks for expressing your views. I'm not well-informed when it comes to politics so I'm not really qualified to comment on threads like this (though I do). I had wondered why MPs are resigning because they disapprove of Johnson. If they don't wish to serve their constituency under the elected Prime Minister, they should resign. Surely they are committed to serve whoever is their leader? Philip Hammond is really showing what a petty, mean-spirited misery he is. The party is better off without people like him.

And you accuse another poster of hyperbole Urm - good grief. Just type 'send her home' and be done with it.

She is ‘home’ just likes to actually cry over how WE (who live here) vote.

Poor old Remainers. . 3 months ago it was all going so well they thought.

Then Farage came back. TaDa!

Now May and much of her team is toast, Corbyn is badly rated, 40% are less likely to vote Labour and we have a pro Brexit PM. Oh the schadenfreude.

where the UK finds itself having to request help from EU fleets
The EU does not have a Navy as such - and the sanctions which were the reason for the UK seizing the Iranian oil tanker in the first place were EU sanctions.

Quite honestly, the most sensible solution would be for an exchange of oil tankers. Then, if the EU wishes to take further action, then so be it.

Let's get the party started...???????????????????????????

Good post Urmstongran.

BJ is indeed a very clever man, he won scholarships to both Eton and Oxford. That speaks for itself.

Lots on here don’t like him, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I like him.

Rosie, you are just as qualified as anyone else to comment on here, no one is an expert, everyone is just offering their opinion.

I agree with you about Philip Hammond, but then I never did like him.

Philip Hammond is really showing what a petty, mean-spirited misery he is.

I think he's a man of principle.
As a Remainer, he would find it difficult to serve under Boris. As a back-bencher he can be true to himself and his constituents, although it was nearly a 50/50 split in the referendum result.

I think some Ministers are resigning before they get the push, but I agree Grandad that it’s odd to resign until you know what is happening over leaving the EU, and nobody knows that until October.We may well have a deal.

Well said Grandad1943

Grandad I do agree that they should not be collaborating to bring down a newly elected leader, however much they may disagree with him and his views. The best thing would be to vote with their conscience and for their constituents, rather than spending time undermining the PM.
That is what led us to this situation in the first place.