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Is the new PM, still married ...

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jura2 Wed 24-Jul-19 17:14:29

really going to move in his mistress into number 10?

varian Thu 25-Jul-19 20:49:09

So much for the party which used to promote "traditional family values"

POGS Thu 25-Jul-19 22:55:06

Varian

A lot of it about and yet some are seen as saints, others are sinners.

Q
Why is one politician different to another with the same/similar histories,?
A
Depends if you like them usually.

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 22:59:32

grin

POGS Thu 25-Jul-19 23:03:03

Jura

" She is not 'just another blond bimbo or bit of fluff'

" she would hold a lot of important strings and be in a strong position to blackmail or worse."
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I honestly thought you had repeated them from a paper or one of those loathsome bloggers /sites.

Each to his/her own I guess.

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 23:04:24

It’s not really very ‘French’ at all, as lulu says, surely in France the politicians stash their mistresses in charming little apartments (and lavish money on them, visiting them every Tues and Fri afternoons.)?
Here, men just leave their wives and move in with their girlfriends until the divorce comes through.

suziewoozie Thu 25-Jul-19 23:08:10

Well not always lemon - I rather think BJ stayed with wife number 2 whilst having several mistresses and impregnating at least two of them ( and one of them twice).

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 23:19:00

Somebody elses marriage is just that really ( somebody elses) his infidelities ( along with rather a lot of politicians)
Are their own business, and as long as their love lives don’t impact on their political decisions, I don’t have a problem with it.

POGS Fri 26-Jul-19 01:13:42

Suziewoozie

Perhaps all the others we know of were too bloody old to ''impregnate them' as you put it.

crystaltipps Fri 26-Jul-19 06:07:47

I can’t remember who said “when a man marries his mistress it creates a vacancy”, which suggests some men are just serial adulterers. Anyway, I doubt we will have the family photo outside no 10 as we did with the Camerons.

suziewoozie Fri 26-Jul-19 06:58:10

I suppose I am quite old fashioned about the responsibilities of marriage and parenthood, especially the latter. I can’t help but think less of a man, any man, who has multiple affairs whilst his children are still young. If that man is a public figure, the affairs are more likely to end up in the public domain. Children I think deserve better than that. Additionally, if whilst having four young children, you decide that having affairs is acceptable behaviour, the least you could then do is wear condom. I’m sorry if this comes across as stuffy and old fashioned.

trisher Fri 26-Jul-19 08:24:13

Maybe Boris will have the first wedding of a PM from No 10. Timed with the announcement of a GE it might seem to be wonderful publicity.

SirChenjin Fri 26-Jul-19 08:53:22

grin

He's have to be very creative with his wedding vows.

SirChenjin Fri 26-Jul-19 08:53:29

He'll

trisher Fri 26-Jul-19 08:59:52

SirChenjingrin a job for his speech writers?

SirChenjin Fri 26-Jul-19 09:05:59

I think so! Can you just imagine how long that meeting would take? 'Nope, can't say that. Or that. No, he's already broken that one. Errr...there was a rumour from a while back so best leave that one out. And that. Definitely not that. Nope, he's already confessed to that. No, the papers ran a story on that a few years back'

grin

trisher Fri 26-Jul-19 14:48:04

Just think of the guest list as well. Former wives? Children? Mistresses? Not to mention politicians who have stabbed him in the back!

SirChenjin Fri 26-Jul-19 14:54:24

Awwww...what's he like, eh?!! <indulgent eye roll>

If he lived in a scheme somewhere he'd have all the worst of the shire Tories frothing at the mouth for his lack of morals.

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 14:57:54

Do people still elope to Gretna Green?

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 14:58:59

Just imagine if he was female too SirChenjin - even worse!

grandtanteJE65 Fri 26-Jul-19 15:09:03

Frankly, these days loads of people live with one person while getting a divorce, so why should the fact that one is the Prime Minister make a difference?

It isn't my idea of morality, but I can hardly ram my notions down others' throats, can I?

As far as I remember, the French president is sharing his official residence with a lady who is not his legal wife and who has no intention of marrying him.

And in my lifetime the widow of another president asked her late husband's mistress and daughter by him to the funeral.

I am more concerned with Mr Johnson's politics than with his morals.

suziewoozie Fri 26-Jul-19 15:15:55

Grandtante that's a rather sanitised version of his married life and parenting. I think separating the personal from the political is not so straightforward really. But I realise many think I’m stuffy and that having serial affairs whilst married that result in multiple pregnancies whilst your children are small says nothing about a man and his moral compass.

varian Fri 26-Jul-19 15:18:09

Unfortunately Boris Johnson's lack of morals or principles is reflected in his politics.

He was once asked if he had any convictions and replied "just one for speeding". Typical clownish retort, good old Boris giving us all a laugh, but on that occasion, he may just have been telling the truth.

suziewoozie Fri 26-Jul-19 15:27:25

This is what the courts had to say about the relevance of his behaviour to his political life

“The court of appeal rejected Macintyre's bid for a privacy injunction against the newspaper, ruling that she had previously shown an "ambivalent approach to the confidentiality" of Johnson's paternity of their daughter. The judges also upheld major parts of an earlier high court ruling that referred to the politician as "philandering".

In a private six-day hearing at the high court last year, Macintyre said her daughter's paternity was "exceptionally sensitive and delicate" and that it would be "absolutely devastating" for the three-year-old to learn of her paternity in the national press.

However, it emerged that she had hinted at Johnson's identity to Nicholas Coleridge, the president of the major magazine publisher Condé Nast, in a conversation at a private house party in June 2010.

In September that year, she agreed to be interviewed by Tatler and take part in a photoshoot with the child. According to the court judgment, the mother went ahead with the interview despite receiving legal advice from her solicitor that it would be unhelpful to her privacy claims.

The three appeal court judges said: "The mother seems to have had little concern as to the effect of the magazine article on the claimant [her daughter]."

Macintyre's daughter is alleged to be the second child conceived by Johnson as a result of extramarital affairs, the court heard during hearings last year. Lawyers for the Daily Mail argued that it was in the public interest to name Johnson as the child's father because it "went to the issue of recklessness and whether on that account he was fit for public office".

varian Fri 26-Jul-19 15:28:04

According to "The Sun" Johnson's oldest daughter Lara called her dad a "selfish b*stard".

His current girlfriend, who is not much older than Lara, was apparently overheard expressing similar views during their recent "domestic"

Not the best character references from two women who presumably know him well.

I have been told that the only people who like Boris Johnson are people who don't know him - unfortunately there are quite a lot of people who seem to like him right now. I wonder how long that might last?

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 15:30:27

According to "The Sun"

That serious, truthful broadsheet grin