Liberal Democrats

who is Versace Salt?

You are wrong grany

Jo Swinson has not ruled out working with Labour. She has only ruled out being part of a Corbyn led government.

Jo has said that she does not think either Corbyn or Johnson are fit to be PM.

I am sure many who have previously voted Labour or Tory would agree.

Veruca Salt

Jo Swinson's voting record and her willingness to contemplate a coalition with the Conservatives, who (with the co-operation of the Lib Dems) have brought this country to its knees, while completely dismissing Labour, says it all really. They're just the Conservative-lite party.

Agree Eloethan

I don't see them as "lite". The Tories are socially conservative while the Liberals are socially liberal. However, they are both conservative with a leaning towards neo-liberalism fiscally.

I do not think the Liberals have changed since they a) went into government with the Tories and b) would not use the word Social or Socialist in their name when they 'merged' with the SDP.

We do not have a socially liberal, fiscally socialist party in the UK yet strangely other countries do.

Jo Swinson has not ruled out working with other parties, but has said clearly that the Libdems will not go into a coalition government led by Corbyn or Johnson.

t's often forgotten that the first of the three main parties to call for an EU referendum was... the Liberal Democrats
Many people view politicians as self-serving, opportunistic and deceitful. And often they are right. I agree this sums up Jo Swindon.

Here’s
@joswinson
backing an in-out referendum

twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1173537985071112197?s=20

This sums up Jo Swinson auto correct

Jo Swintons voting record - more yellow Tory than Liberal Democrats

voted FOR :
Bedroom Tax
reducing benefits for ill and disabled
tripling tuition fees
reforms allowing privatisation of NHS services
for culling badgers
Voted AGAINST:
a bankers bonus tax
increasing taxes for incomes over £150,000
raising sickness benefit in line with prices
regulation of Fracking
slowing rises in rail fares

That doesn't encourage me to feel postive towards Jo Swinton. Realistically, if she won't countenance a coalition with either CP or LP, how does she think they will ever be in government? That would put me right off voting LD.

Who on earth does she think she is. She has no right to think she can overrule the decision of both the Labour and Conservative party members, to choose their leader for them. Because she thinks she knows better.

Paddy Ashdown is on record saying that the result was of the referendum should be final however small the margin.

The Liberal Democrat’s called for a referendum as early as 2008.

This party is no longer Liberal or Democratic.

Listen to Guy Verhofstadts speech (rant) along side Lib Dem’s in “Bollocks to Brexit” T shirts at the weekend.

It is true that Paddy did say that at the time of the referendum but since then we have discovered that the result was won by lies, cheating and foreign interference and in addition, there was never a suggestion of leaving with no deal. all the dire consequences of brexit have been revealed.

The Liberal Democrat’s called for a referendum as early as 2008

An interesting turn of phrase. "As early as" as it's really a bit of spin. It would be more correct to say "as long ago as" It was under different circumstances and for very different reasons wasn't it? Once the Maastricht Treaty was signed there were, for the LDs, no relevant reasons to do so. So they stopped. You use News Speak to make your point GG13 but your point is very twisted. From the signing of the MT (1992) there was no need to ask for a referendum and it has not been in their manifesto - why would it be?

varian personally I was and still am a remainer, so no beef there; however, as I mentioned earlier, unless CP/LP change leader, JS won't form a coalition with them - so what's the point of voting LD? There's no way they're going to be able to form a government on their own... very disappointing leadership IMHO, bring back Vince Cable.

If you are a fan of Jeremy Corbyn, in spite of being a remainer, hunpty, you will probably vote Labour.

However there are many Remainers with serious doubts about Corbyn who may well decide to vote Liberal Democrat.

Ok so what is verrucca salt? Feeling as if I have fallen down a rabbit hole at the moment.

I think Swinson it too politically immature to be the leader.

It is not just people who are fans of Jeremy Corbyn though, varian, who would be reluctant to vote for the Liberal Democrats led by Jo Swinson. Her policies just seem to be so right wing, judging by her voting record. Please don't go down that road of saying that anyone who wants more fairness in society must therefore be a 'Corbynista '.

I voted to remain and would do so again, but at the same time I can not vote for the sort of Liberal Democrats who supported the austerity that has been one of the drivers behind the vote to leave.

Verrucca Salt is a person.

Politically immature and false as a 9 bob note.

Thank you Petra. I will Google and see if I can work out the relevance

Why ww should you post "I think Swinson it too politically immature to be the leader."

Jo Swinson first became an MP in 2005. She has ministerial experience.

After the LibDems were punished by the voters for going into coalition in the 2015 election she lost here seat in East Dumbartonshire, to the SNP but won it back convincingly in 2017.

She is 39 years old ( and I know that many of us GNetters have children that age or older) but she is absolutlely ready to take on the role of party leader and potential PM.

Compare her with the alternatives - liar buffoon Boris Johnson, who has only ever achieved anything in promoting his own ridiculous persona for the entertainment of the right-wing press and Jeremy Corbyn who sat on his party's backbenches for goodness knows how many years rebelling against everything and so has never held any kind of ministerial position.

Jo Swinson stands head and shoulders above both of these utterly useless men.

I am really fed up with the interviewers suggesting that it is undemocratic to attempt to overturn a previous referendum with a General Election. In our democracy what is more democratic than a GE? The silly women on sky was asking "what about the seventeen and a half million who voted to leave? What about them? Does she think they are going to be stopped from voting?