Does anyone know what Boris intends to do about the Irish border if he gets his no deal?

Hence why it is unwise to meddle with what is a fragile peace.

annepl Why do you find it offensive? I'm not criticising you unless you happen to be an extremist with politics based on outdated religion.

^ don't have much sympathy for the Protestants in NI. During the troubles, I remember thinking that they should all should just have their heads knocked together and some sense imposed.^
perhaps that is why it has upset some posters, growstuff

It takes two to make an argument and both sides of the extremists were killing each other and making life a misery for the majority.

Let them be upset! I know perfectly well that there many in Northern Ireland who didn't want to be involved, but I also know that there were many who were dragged into it all and whose archaic beliefs still linger. I'm thinking here of the DUP opposition to abortion and gay marriage. I'm thinking of people who still identify as Protestant or Catholic rather than Northern Irish and Christian. As a teenager, I remember the first riots and Bernadette Devlin and I remember being shocked to discover how much discrimination there was against Catholics. I was also shocked by the actions of the Provos and UDA/UFF and everything which followed. Ian Paisley was as confrontational as any of them.

I didn't understand any of it, because as far as I was concerned, they were all Irish and Christian (supposedly). I realise that this all happened within living memory and people are still affected by it. The GFA was a miracle of diplomacy but it didn't stop it.

Lessimore is right. Any attempt to meddle in a very fragile peace is downright stupid.

PS. If you don't like foreign roadsigns, I hope you didn't think of settling in Wales.

At least the Welsh people speak Welsh. I feel the Irish demands are made to cause trouble.

Errmm. About 20% of the Welsh speak Welsh.

If that's honestly the worst they do to upset you, I think you should count your lucky stars.

and here in Glasgow this evening .200 unity for Ireland supporters marched through Govan,they were attacked by 400 loyalists baricading the road and setting fires .
Its the biggest police operation seen in Glasgow outside of football days .Shocking but shows that the Irish problem is very much still there .
I dont agree with these marches from either side ,but they have to ban both sides before someone gets killed.Loyalists/unionists were filmed threatening to BOMB independence marchers in the borders .They should have been charged not just told off by the local police .

As to the irish street signs ,we have the same eegits complaining here about scots gaelic ones ...yet the area where my daughet lives just 45 miles from glasgow spoke mainly gaelic right up until the mid 1900's .

Kirkcubbin its Norther IRELAND ,just across the border in Donegal there are still a majority of Irish speakers

paddyann, your " report" disturbs me.Obviously yet again, Ireland was an afterthought.

Read your history folks.

I have no objection to anyone speaking or learning Irish but to waste money on printing official forms and changing signs when health services and education are struggling. We also have a lot of Chinese and eastern Europeans here, should we put up signs for them too.

I'm sure they will be happy to learn that it's OK by you if they use their native tongue.

Ireland/Irish....the clue is in the name?

Is that really the only thing you can criticise? Really?

Riot police deployed following Govan demonstrations - BBC ...

www.bbc.co.uk › news › uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49526876

Thank you for your patronising advice Lessismore. Perhaps you didn't realise that NI is part of UK where the native language is English?

Flipping heck! I really hope Johnson knows what he's doing with Ireland. Unfortunately, I don't think he does.

Well if the arguments being started on this thread by people, some of whom have no Irish connections, are an example of what is to come, I dread to think what the people who actually live in the area will be driven to.
As for Boris he may have a plan, but remember the Garden Bridge.
Incidentally whilst looking at the cost of that I found this interesting bit of news. Typical Boris I thought
The payout will help refund donors including £3,200 to the winner of a Garden Bridge auction prize who did not receive their promised game of "table tennis with Boris Johnson"

All this talk of foreign languages in the uk from intelligent people! Welsh is not foreign in Wales no more than the Gaelic is in Ireland (the island) nor Scottish Gaelic is in Scotland and even Cornwall had/has its own language - who knew?

we knew

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No it was not and I wish GN could ' expand' on why posts are being removed. !

It was removed because my post quoted another post that was removed.

The only comment I made was ' Oo Eck'

growstuff

" I think they're narrow-minded bigots."

"I'm thinking here of the DUP opposition to abortion and gay marriage. I'm thinking of people who still identify as Protestant or Catholic rather than Northern Irish and Christian."
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Well you tamed your posts down a bit at least.

The fact you have an opinion on abortion and gay marriage that does not chime with others whether they be Muslim, DUP, Catholics, politicians you detest means you have a right to say what you think. As do those who hold a different opinion.

However 'bigoted', (obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, and intolerant towards other people's beliefs and practices) , is a word that does not only sit fair and square on one side or the other.

I think perhaps removing your post was a simple mistake Pogs.

With no border enterprising suppliers could presumably buy up monster quantities of chlorinated chicken and sell it on via Irish ports into mainland Europe? !

I seem to remember the Leave campaigners promising to "take back control of our borders"

Surely not another broken promise !

What the heck are you going on about POGS?

Pantglas, I have absolutely no problem with Welsh signs in Wales. I was just questioning the objection to Irish signs in Ireland and making a comparison.

annepl, If you'd read and understood my post properly in the first place, nobody would have gone running to teacher and POGS' post wouldn't have had to be removed.

Irish has constitutional status as the national and first official language of the Republic of Ireland and is an officially recognised minority language in Northern Ireland. It is also among the official languages of the European Union.

Excuse the wiki quote.