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Chinese buying up all the baby milk !

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gillybob Sat 31-Aug-19 10:00:35

I saw it with my own eyes yesterday as DD and I were in Boots (Newcastle) looking for baby milk and baby juice. My Dd has told me in the past that she has struggled to find milk in town and that the shelves are often bare and she often has to try quite a few different shops before finding any.

Yesterday I questioned an assistant and she told me “oh don’t get me started, I could stock the shelves to the top right now (if we had any) and the Chinese would come in and buy it all. We have had to limit the milk to 10 boxes per person but they come in 6 and 8 at a time and take the maximum amount per person , meaning that people like your daughter cannot even get one box.....ditto the special baby juices”

Apparently they send it all back to China . There is a large Chinese population in Newcastle and this is becoming common place in most of the shops that stock baby products. I had to hear it with my own ears and see it to believe it ! shock

Thankfully Evie is only having one bed time bottle a day now which is just as well. Not sure they can do about it ? Making the limits per person 2 or 3 instead of 10 might be a good start though.

gillybob Sat 31-Aug-19 22:04:23

We know the reasons behind it Barmey but it doesn’t make it right . It just makes what Chinese companies are doing as very wrong !

growstuff Sat 31-Aug-19 22:10:23

That's what free market trading is all about. Look forward to more of it. Those who can afford higher prices will get higher quality. If there are supply shortages, as there appears to be with baby milk, those who can't afford the premium prices will lose out (and maybe be poisoned or starve).

RatherBeActive Sat 31-Aug-19 22:25:20

80% of all baby milk is imported from the EU & with ‘No Deal’ looming, there are people actively stockpiling in case of shortages / delays with supplies.

sad

Barmeyoldbat Sat 31-Aug-19 22:35:02

So what will our standard be out of the EU, will we be importing from China.

Sorry Gillybob, I only read the first 3 pages and no mention was made. I seemed to be all about people taking a profit so I just jumped in. And no its not right but you can't blame mothers in other countries wanting the best for their children.

growstuff Sat 31-Aug-19 22:45:49

Even the Brexit-supporting Sun was reporting stockpiling in December 2018.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/7880542/brexit-baby-milk-shortage-fears/

growstuff Sat 31-Aug-19 22:47:37

It seems there's more behind this story than Chinese buying up Western baby milk.

gillybob Sat 31-Aug-19 23:14:18

My bestest baby girl got her “bot bot” tonight so all is well in my world . Thank you to those who understood . smile

trisher Sun 01-Sept-19 12:22:40

To all those who think the remarks made by the Boots woman aren't racist can I explain why they are In Newcastle we not only have Chinese residents who live here (and have done for generations) and are actually British, we also have South Koreans, Malaysians, people from Singapore and from Hong Kong who are working or studying here. All of these people may be of Chinese descent but are not Chinese. Therefore it is impossible to identify beyond doubt the country of origin of the buyers by their physical appearance and to do so is racist.

SueDonim Sun 01-Sept-19 12:30:06

Trisher I've sent you a halloumi-related PM. smile

Gonegirl Sun 01-Sept-19 13:13:20

gillybob grin

GagaJo Sun 01-Sept-19 13:35:21

trisher dragon. Into the lair! I agree.

Hetty58 Sun 01-Sept-19 14:06:19

Growstuff, I'm not being moralistic, just practical. After a chat with a GP, mums might decide to continue breast feeding instead. It's just too convenient to pick it up in a shop (and tempting after a sleepless night, sore nipples etc.) but why risk a child's lifetime health and longevity?

growstuff Sun 01-Sept-19 14:21:50

Sounds to me as though you're being moralistic by telling mothers what's best for their babies.

Mothers have a choice and if they want to feed their babies formula milk at whatever age, that's up to them and they should be confident that there's a good supply of baby milk in the shops.

Gonegirl Sun 01-Sept-19 14:32:39

Seems a bit odd that a load of people from "Korean, Malaya, people from Singapore and from Hong Kong", would suddenly start buying up bucketfuls of baby formula.

Give the Boots assistant a bit of credit for some commonsense. hmm

Gonegirl Sun 01-Sept-19 14:34:08

And what "lair" is this then? Gransnet?

Maybe try mumsnet?

GagaJo Sun 01-Sept-19 14:37:13

Well, y'know, Chinese, dragon etc.

growstuff Sun 01-Sept-19 14:39:26

This was all news to me, so I'm grateful to gillybob for the OP, which sparked my curiosity. It would appear that people from South East Asia have been buying foreign formula milk for years. Just speculation, but maybe the drop in the pound makes it worthwhile buying from the UK rather than Australia, New Zealand or an EU country.

Maybe they haven't suddenly started buying UK formula milk, but (as Matt Hancock said in December 2028) the government really has started stockpiling it. Maybe families with babies have started stockpiling it themselves.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 01-Sept-19 14:41:09

Hetty58 not all mothers can breast feed, my daughter is having her second child and due to partial mastectomies of both breasts she is unable.

I really dislike the “breast feeding mafia” who make many mothers feel guilty and as if they are failures due to bottle feeding.

growstuff Sun 01-Sept-19 14:45:20

Wish there were a "like" button GrannyGravy because I dislike them too and I suspect most people dislike being told what to do by their GP.

In any case, I don't see why people should be forced to breast feed as a result of a baby milk shortage. It's quite difficult to get a baby to accept the breast after he/she has got used to a bottle.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 01-Sept-19 14:49:49

growstuff thank you ??

growstuff Sun 01-Sept-19 15:34:45

You're welcome.

janipat Sun 01-Sept-19 20:01:48

Just had to comment here because I cannot stand the breast feeding mafia. When it comes to babies "fed is best" whether that's by breast, ng tube, or formula from a bottle. No woman should have to justify her choice ( if indeed that's what it is) to anybody. I breastfed all 4 of mine for varying lengths of time. The one who was breastfed the shortest time is in fact the healthiest!
Glad your DD has managed to get some gillybob.

Doodledog Sun 01-Sept-19 20:14:02

Yes, the 'breastfeeding mafia' can be very cruel and judgemental.

My first baby was born by emergency section after a traumatic labour, and my milk did not come in at all. I was told that this was because at times of trauma the body closes down a step at a time, and milk production would be one of the first things to stop, as it wasn't essential to my survival.

Anyway, I bottle fed, and my baby was/is just fine, and very heathy. At an NCT party when he was about 3 months old, and I was still very hormonal, I overheard the teacher saying to another friend that if her baby died of SIDS, at least she would know that she had done her best by breastfeeding. I was devastated, and still haven't forgiven her, even though I now accept that it was thoughtless rather than deliberately nasty.

Everyone there knew about my circumstances, but they were so wedded to the notion of 'breast is best' that they didn't stop to think, and nobody said a word.

TerriBull Sun 01-Sept-19 20:40:47

I'm agree with all the others here who have commented about "breastfeeding mafia" there are a whole gamut of reasons why some women don't breastfeed, baby not thriving, infection. etc.

"After a chat with GP mums might decide to continue breastfeeding instead, it's too convenient to pick it up in a shop after a sleepless night and sore nipples, but why risk a child's life time health and longevity.

And to think some people think that the "muffia" are some sort of cliched stereotype, no they haven't gone away, as sanctimonious, preachy and judgemental as ever!

TerriBull Sun 01-Sept-19 20:45:32

I agree not I'm agree